Solving the Antiderivative of 1/(e^x + 1)

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The discussion revolves around finding the antiderivative of the function \( Y = \frac{1}{e^x + 1} \). Participants are exploring various substitution methods and approaches to simplify the integral.

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  • The original poster attempts substitution with \( u = e^x + 1 \) but expresses confusion regarding the resulting integral. Some participants suggest using partial fractions and multiplying by \( e^{-x} \) as alternative strategies. Others raise concerns about the appropriateness of providing complete solutions instead of guiding the original poster through the process.

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The discussion includes various attempts to guide the original poster without providing a complete solution. There is an ongoing dialogue about the balance between offering help and allowing the original poster to work through the problem independently.

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Some participants question the adherence to forum rules regarding solution sharing, indicating a tension between providing assistance and fostering independent problem-solving.

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I seem to be having trouble with this antiderivative can i please see a solution? Y= (1/(e^x + 1))

I tried substituting e^x + 1 as u, but that left me with the quest to find an antiderivative of 1/(u^2 - u). i feel like I am missing something silly here. thanks
 
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You have it, keep going use partial fractions: [itex]\frac{1}{u(u-1)}= -\frac{1}{u}+\frac{1}{u-1}[/itex]
 
hypermonkey2 said:
I seem to be having trouble with this antiderivative can i please see a solution? Y= (1/(e^x + 1))
I tried substituting e^x + 1 as u, but that left me with the quest to find an antiderivative of 1/(u^2 - u). i feel like I am missing something silly here. thanks

Try multiplying top and bottom by e^(-x)
 
Here it is (the integral)

For

[tex]\int\frac{dx}{e^x +1}[/tex]

put [itex]u=e^x +1\Rightarrow x=\log (u-1) \mbox{ so that }dx=\frac{du}{u-1}[/itex]

to get

[tex]\int\frac{dx}{e^x +1} = \int\frac{du}{u(u-1)} = \int\left( -\frac{1}{u}+\frac{1}{u-1}\right) du = -\log |u| + \log |u-1| + C[/tex]
[tex]= -\log \left| e^x +1\right| + \log \left| e^x\right| + C = -\log \left| e^x +1\right| + x + C[/tex]
 
benorin said:
For
[tex]\int\frac{dx}{e^x +1}[/tex]
put [itex]u=e^x +1\Rightarrow x=\log (u-1) \mbox{ so that }dx=\frac{du}{u-1}[/itex]
to get
[tex]\int\frac{dx}{e^x +1} = \int\frac{du}{u(u-1)} = \int\left( -\frac{1}{u}+\frac{1}{u-1}\right) du = -\log |u| + \log |u-1| + C[/tex]
[tex]= -\log \left| e^x +1\right| + \log \left| e^x\right| + C = -\log \left| e^x +1\right| + x + C[/tex]
?
Why on Earth are there still some people just post a complete solution (which is definitely, certainly, obviously, seriously, blah blah blah... against the forum's rules), without giving the OP an opportunity to solve the problem on his own? :confused:
Isn't your #2 post of this thread enough? Can't you wait for the OP to tell you if he can solve it or he still needs a little bit more help?
Am I really missing something? :confused:
 

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