Solving the Integral of cos x ln x: Step-by-Step Guide and Tips

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The discussion revolves around the integral of cos x ln x, specifically the expression ∫ cos x ln x dx. Participants are exploring methods of integration, particularly integration by parts, and the challenges associated with the integral of sin x/x.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the integral using integration by parts but is uncertain about the next steps after arriving at ln x sin x - ∫sin x/x dx. Some participants suggest reconsidering the roles of u and dv in integration by parts. Others note the difficulty of integrating sin x/x in terms of elementary functions and discuss the implications of introducing special functions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various perspectives on how to approach the integral. Some participants have provided insights into the limitations of expressing the integral in elementary terms and have suggested alternative methods, such as series expansions. There is no explicit consensus on a single approach, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are grappling with the constraints of the integral, particularly the need to potentially introduce special functions like Si(x) or series expansions, which may not yield closed forms. There is also a mention of homework rules that may limit the exploration of certain methods.

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Please, how can I solve this?

∫ cos x ln x dx

I get this:

ln x sin x - ∫sin x/x dx

but how do I continue from here?

Thanks in advance...
 
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The antiderivative of sin(x)/x isn't expressible in terms of elementary functions so perhaps it would be better to change the role of u and dv in your integration by parts.

Edit: At least, I think that's the case. Couldn't hurt to try anyway.
 
That won't change anything -- one cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions iff the other cannot be expressed as well.
 
look at it as an equation, and you need to integrate by parts at least twice
 
fizzzzzzzzzzzy said:
look at it as an equation, and you need to integrate by parts at least twice

No, this won't help. Even Wolfram gives an answer with Si(x) in it - the integral of Sinx/x.
 
So, can't sinx/x be integrated?
 
Yes, of course it can- its integral is Si(x)! It cannot, however, be integrated in terms of elementary functions.
 
It seems difficult to continue from ln x sin x - ∫sin x/x dx ...

Thanks to averyone who posted. I'll tell you if something different appears.

Thanks again.
 
It is impossible to continue without introducing "special" functions or series expansions (from which you won't be able to obtain closed forms). So, play with it for a while, but don't spend too much time on it :smile:.
 
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If you really don't want Si(x), here's your only alternative:

\frac{\sin x}{x} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{x^{2n}}{(2n+1)!}.

Integrate that, and there you go.
 
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And don't forget this one:
\frac{sin(x)}{x} = sinc(x)
 

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