Solving the System of Equations: x^2 + 5y = 30 & x^2 + (y-3)^2 = 9

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The discussion centers on solving the system of equations x^2 + 5y = 30 and x^2 + (y-3)^2 = 9. Participants analyze the number of solutions, initially debating between two and three answers. The equations represent a parabola and a circle, leading to the realization that the intersection points determine the solutions. After various calculations and substitutions, it becomes clear that the correct answer is three solutions, highlighting the importance of graphing to visualize the intersections. The conversation emphasizes the learning process and the value of careful analysis in solving mathematical problems.
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I took a test in math to determine where I was etc etc...
anyways, the following question came up:

How many answers are there to the following system of equations?
x^2 + 5y = 30
x^2 + (y-3)^2 = 9

a) 0
b) 1
c) 2 (my answer)
d) 3 (correct answer)


The first thing I noticed was that x was the same thing in both cases, the answer would not be changed because of it. As such, x could be almost any value (infinite answers). So obviously, they wanted how many solutions for Y.

My work (in my head) was:
x^2 + 5y = 30
x^2 + (y-3)^2 = 9

*subtract equations from each other
5y - (y-3)^2 = 21

*break (y-3)^2
5y - (y^2 - 6y + 9) = 21
5y - y^2 + 6y - 9 = 21
11y - y^2 = 30

*place ^2 in positive and use ax^2 + bx + c format
y^2 - 11y + 30 = 0

*check for 2 or 1 answers by checking if the sqr() portion of quadratic formula is non zero
sqr(121 - 4*30*1) = sqr(1) = 1

since 1 <> 0, and the answer will be +- 1, there are two answers.

Where is my mistake? :frown:
 
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\begin{align*}\\y=\frac{30-x^2}{5}\\<br /> x^2+[\frac{30-x^2-15}{5}]^2=9\\<br /> x^2(x^2-5)=0\\<br /> x=0\ or \x=\pm\sqrt{5}\end{align*}

When you substitute y=5 which you have found into the first equation, you find 2 solution for x and for y=6, you find x=0.
 
I was thinking...
- 2nd Degree Equation
- 1st Degree Equation

...3 solutions.

I can be wrong with the 1st degree equation.
 
Leong said:
\begin{align*}\\y=\frac{30-x^2}{5}\\<br /> x^2+[\frac{30-x^2-15}{5}]^2=9\\<br /> x^2(x^2-5)=0\\<br /> x=0\ or \x=\pm\sqrt{5}\end{align*}

When you substitute y=5 which you have found into the first equation, you find 2 solution for x and for y=6, you find x=0.

Oh, I get it. I see where I made the mistake... tricky little son of a...
 
One is a parabola and the other is a circle. A quick sketch of the graphs will tell you how many (real) solutions there are! :-)
 
I see, x is limited by y's limitation... it's a weird concept at first.
 
I can the same answers as the guy above.

I did the following:

Take x^2 + (y-3)^2 = 9, and you get x^2 = y^2 + 6y.

Take the x^2 and put it in the other equation, and you get...

y^2 - 6y + 5y = 30 to... (y - 6)(y - 5) = 0

Now that you know y... plug in the numbers for x, and there you go.
 
I was wrong about the 1st degree. :(

I was doubting it completely because the answer was 3, and I just took the easy way out.

Look at the bright side, you warmed up your brain today.
 
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