Space Elevator Rope: Homework Solution & Equations

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The discussion centers on the mathematical derivation required to demonstrate that the parameter n' in a space elevator rope must satisfy the equation n'² + n' = (8πGρ)/(3ω²), where G is the gravitational constant and ρ is Earth's density. Participants express challenges in solving the problem, particularly with the tension (T) varying with radius (r) and the complexities of integrating mass without clear initial conditions. There is confusion regarding the definitions of r and R, specifically whether R represents Earth's radius and r is the distance from Earth's center to the top of the rope or the other way around. The need for a differential equation to analyze changes in tension along the rope's height is also highlighted. Overall, the thread emphasizes the difficulties in applying the relevant equations and understanding the physical parameters involved.
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Homework Statement


Consider a long rope with uniform mass density extending radially from just above the surface of the Earth to a radius of n'R. Show that if the rope is to remain above the same point on the equator at all times, then n' must be given by

n'2+n' = (8 pi G p)/(3 w^2) G is the gravitational constant, p is the density of earth.

Homework Equations


w^2*r*m = m*me*G/r^2 + T (what I assume to be true)
me = (4*pi*R^3*p)/(3*r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


Tried finding dr/dm but having the issue of not knowing T because that varies with r. Also tried dT/dr / dT/dm but the algebra became too messy after eliminating T from the problem and the integrals that resulted make no sense, such as integrating mass without initial conditions and using density = m/l, this substitution did not yield promising results after integrating. Also taken consideration of finding the point of Maximum T by using dT/dr and setting that equal to 0, but the answer does not give insight into of n' (I assumed this was half the height originally, but this is not true from what I have found.)
 
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In your equation in part 2 of the template, what are you using as r and R?
Is that R= radius of Earth and r=n'R= distance from center of Earth to top of rope? Or vice versa?
 
LonePhysicist said:
w^2*r*m = m*me*G/r^2 + T
Shouldn't that be a differential equation? I.e. consider an element of the rope height dr. What is the change in tension along it?
LonePhysicist said:
me = (4*pi*R^3*p)/(3*r^2)
If the left hand side stands for Me, the mass of the Earth, why the division by r2?
 
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