Spaceship Time dilation problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the travel time for a spaceship traveling to Alpha Centauri at 0.75c, focusing on the perspectives of both Earth observers and passengers on the spaceship. Earth observers will measure the trip duration using the formula T = D/V, leading to a longer travel time due to time dilation effects. In contrast, passengers on the spaceship will experience a shorter proper time, calculated using the time dilation equation. There is some confusion regarding the distance measurement and the application of the time dilation formula, with clarifications emphasizing that the Earth observer sees the ship moving at 0.75c and experiences time differently than the spaceship passengers. Ultimately, understanding the distinction between the two frames of reference is crucial for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement


A spaceship departs from Earth for the star Alpha Centauri whic is 4 light years away. The spaceship travels at .75c. Howlong does it take to get there (a) as measured on Earth and (b) as measured by by a passenger on the spaceship


Homework Equations


proper time = delta(t')=2D/v

delta(t)=delta(t')/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



In part a, the observer is going to the measured that the Earth travels at the speed of light, so I would used the equation , delta=delta(t')/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

In part b, the observer on the spaceship is going to measured the proper time and will not notice that the spaceship is traveling closed to the speed of light . so he will used the equation delta(t') =2D/v= 2*(4*light*years)/(.75c)

Are both my observations correct?
 
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You have it a bit backwards. It's the Earth observer who sees the ship move at 0.75c, so the Earth observer simply says the trip takes T = D/V. (Not 2D/V !)

(Note that the distance is 4 light years according to Earth observers; the spaceship observers measure a different distance.)
 
Doc Al said:
You have it a bit backwards. It's the Earth observer who sees the ship move at 0.75c, so the Earth observer simply says the trip takes T = D/V. (Not 2D/V !)

(Note that the distance is 4 light years according to Earth observers; the spaceship observers measure a different distance.)
How do I have it backwards when the observers on Earth who are at rest are going to see the ship approach the speed of light and therefore , in the inertial frame containing the observers of the earth, time will seem slower. For the person

I didn't think I needed to find the distance the passenger on the spaceship measures from the spaceship to the Earth since the time dilation formula contains the proper time interval. delta(t) =delta(t')/gamma
 
Benzoate said:
How do I have it backwards when the observers on Earth who are at rest are going to see the ship approach the speed of light and therefore , in the inertial frame containing the observers of the earth, time will seem slower.
It's certainly true that Earth observers will view the moving clocks on the spaceship as running slow. Thus the travel time according to Earth observers will be longer than the travel time according to the spaceship clock.

I didn't think I needed to find the distance the passenger on the spaceship measures from the spaceship to the Earth since the time dilation formula contains the proper time interval. delta(t) =delta(t')/gamma
It's also true that you don't need to find the distance according to spaceship observers (that's why it was a parenthetical remark). But in order to use the time dilation formula, you need to start by calculating one of the times. The travel time according to Earth observers is easy to find using D = V*T, since you know the distance and speed as measured by Earth observers.
 
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