Spacing/population of rotational states

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The discussion focuses on calculating the energy spacing between the ground rotational state (j=0) and the j=6 state of the OH radical, given a wavelength of 308 nm and a temperature of 2000K. The key equations used include εj = BJ(J+1) for energy levels and Nj/Nd = gj exp(-εj / KT) for population ratios. The challenge lies in determining the rotational constant B, which requires knowledge of the bond length of the OH radical, not provided in the problem statement. Participants emphasize the need for this bond length to proceed with the calculations.

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Homework Statement



This is a two part question I can do about half of each but get a little lost when trying to finish.

I have written all the values below but just in case the full question is here (sorry about clarity) - http://screencast.com/t/jHQTMFnYOhp

λ = 308nm
T = 2000K

population of ground state (j=0) is 3.6*1010 cm

(i) So we are trying to calculate the spacing (in cm-1) between the ground rotational state and the j =6.

(ii) The population of the rotational state j =6

Homework Equations



(i)
εj = BJ(J+1)
gj = 2J+1

(ii)
Nj/Nd = gj exp( -εj / KT)

The Attempt at a Solution



(i)
gj = (2*6) + 1 = 13 but this is only degeneracy

can also try:

wave number = 1 /λ = 1/308*10-9 but this is only the wave number of j=0 and not he distance between j = 0 --> 6?(ii)
use:
Nj/Nd = gj exp( -εj / KT)

We know gj, K, T Just need εj but how as we don't have a value for B?

Sorry if this is confusing and please let me know if I can clear anything up!
Thanks
David
 
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Hello, dscot. If you know the bond length of OH then you can calculate B. Then you could get the energy spacing between J = 0 and J = 6.
 
Hi TSny =)

I think I understand what you are saying but it doesn't look like the bond length was provided in the question? I'm just guessing here but maybe a clue is that its an OH radical? I could try google but this was a past exam question so I think there must be a way to figure it out?

Thanks!
 
I can't see a way to get B without knowing the bond length.

I also don't see the relevance of the 308 nm wavelength. That seems to me to be the wavelength corresponding to some electronic excitation of OH. I don't see how to use it to help answer the question.

Maybe someone else can help.
 
Hi TSny,

This does seem to be a tricky one, I'll keep trying and hopefully someone else might know :)

Thanks for trying!
David
 

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