Special relativity - two flashes at different places

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The problem involves two observers measuring the timing and positioning of two flashes of light in the context of special relativity. The original poster describes a scenario where an observer measures the distance and time interval between two light flashes, seeking to determine the relative velocity of a second observer who perceives the flashes as occurring at the same location.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the Lorentz transformation equations but questions their own calculation after receiving a different result from a reference. Other participants suggest clarifying the coordinates for the events and exploring the implications of the invariant separation between the events.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the setup of the problem and the application of relevant equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to define coordinates for the events and to consider the nature of the separation between them.

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There is a mention of a discrepancy between the original poster's calculation and a reference answer, indicating potential confusion or misunderstanding of the problem setup or equations. The original poster also notes a lack of detailed work shown in their initial attempt.

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Homework Statement


An observer S sees a flash of red light 1200m from his position and a flash of blue light 720 m closer to him and on the same straight line. He measures the time interval between the occurrence of the flashes to be 5.0 microseconds, the red flash occurring first.
(a)What is the relative velocity v of a second observer S' who would record these flashes as occurring at the same place?


Homework Equations


x' = gamma (x - beta W) , W = ct


The Attempt at a Solution


I used the above equation and set delta x' = 0 but I came up with beta = -.32. The back says beta = .48. What did I do wrong?? Thanks in advance!
 
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wumple said:
What did I do wrong??
Very hard to tell because you basically showed no work.

##\Delta x' = \gamma (\Delta x - v \Delta t) ##

Now ## \Delta x' = 0## - what does this tell you about ##\Delta x - v \Delta t ##?
What ##\Delta x ## and ## \Delta t ## values should be used?
 
wumple said:

Homework Statement


An observer S sees a flash of red light 1200m from his position and a flash of blue light 720 m closer to him and on the same straight line. He measures the time interval between the occurrence of the flashes to be 5.0 microseconds, the red flash occurring first.
(a)What is the relative velocity v of a second observer S' who would record these flashes as occurring at the same place?

Homework Equations


x' = gamma (x - beta W) , W = ct

The Attempt at a Solution


I used the above equation and set delta x' = 0 but I came up with beta = -.32. The back says beta = .48. What did I do wrong?? Thanks in advance!
When in doubt (and when you can), write down coordinates for the events of interest.

In frame S, can you find ##(x_r, t_r)## coordinates for the event where the flash of red light was emitted?
In frame S, can you find ##(x_b, t_b)## coordinates for the event where the flash of blue light was emitted?

In doing this, feel free to define a zero time for your coordinate system as you see fit.

With these coordinates in hand, can you find the invariant separation between the two events? Is it timelike or spacelike? (Given what S' records, one can see what that answer needs to be).

Since this separation is invariant, what does this say about what delay that observer S' records between the two flashes?

With these results in hand, can you calculate a time dilation factor for the proper time of S' compared to the coordinate time of S?
 
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