Speed of Sound (warm air or cold air)

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The discussion revolves around the factors affecting the speed of sound in air, particularly comparing warm and cold air. The original poster expresses confusion regarding whether sound travels faster in warm or cold air, referencing a mathematical equation and contrasting theories about density and sound propagation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to reconcile the equation for the speed of sound with the idea that denser air might facilitate faster sound travel. They question whether the clarity of sound heard at night over water is due to temperature effects or density. Other participants suggest that background noise may play a role in perceived sound clarity rather than changes in speed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of how temperature and density affect sound propagation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between temperature, density, and sound speed, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's questions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of temperature and density on sound speed, as well as external factors such as background noise that may influence sound perception at different times of day.

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I am so confused with speed of sound. would sound travel faster in cold or warm air?
if you put mathmatical equation in, v= 331 + (0.59Tc) then it would travel faster in warm air.
but another theory says that sound travels faster in denser medium and cold air is denser than warm air, hence it travels faster in colder air. it it true?

And at night over water we can hear sound clearly on shore than during the day because of colder air during night and over water, as cold air is dense, molecules can bump into each other better as they are closer, makes it travel faster? or the speed of it has nothing to do with it? would the answer be just (it travels better because it is denser)?

please help me out thanks
 
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More likely at night over water, there is less background noise, so one can hear more clearly, but the speed of sound is not increased.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/souspe.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/souspe3.html

The speed of sound (in a gas) is inversely proportional to M1/2, where M is the molecular (or atomic mass for monatomic (noble) gases), and that of course is related to density. On the other hand, the speed of sound increases with temperature even as density decreases slightly.
 
Astronuc said:
More likely at night over water, there is less background noise, so one can hear more clearly, but the speed of sound is not increased.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/souspe.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/souspe3.html

The speed of sound (in a gas) is inversely proportional to M1/2, where M is the molecular (or atomic mass for monatomic (noble) gases), and that of course is related to density. On the other hand, the speed of sound increases with temperature even as density decreases slightly.

yes but if you were to explain using physics how would you explain that at night over water u can hear sound clearly than during the day?
 
As temperature increases, air particles move more, and allow for better propagation of sound waves
 

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