Spherical Coordinates: Understanding Theta Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the equations defining the angle theta in spherical coordinates, particularly questioning the correctness of a specific equation presented on a linked webpage. Participants explore the implications of different formulations and their common usage in mathematical contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the equation for theta, suggesting it should be expressed as \(\theta = \tan^{-1}\left( \frac{\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}}{z}\right)\) instead of \(\theta = \tan^{-1}\left( \frac{z}{\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}}\right)\).
  • Several participants agree that the equation on the linked page is incorrect, supporting the alternative formulation for theta.
  • Another participant mentions that the more common expression is \(\theta = \cos^{-1}\left(\frac{z}{\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}}}\right)\), suggesting its prevalence in usage.
  • A participant inquires about the correctness of the equations for the x, y, and z components in spherical coordinates as presented on the webpage.
  • There is curiosity regarding why the \(\theta = \cos^{-1}\) formulation is more common compared to the \(\theta = \tan^{-1}\) approach, with a suggestion that it may relate to higher mathematics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the equation for theta presented on the linked page is incorrect. However, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall correctness of the x, y, and z component equations and the reasons for the preference of one formulation over another.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of using different formulations for theta and the potential mathematical contexts that influence their commonality.

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So, I was curious about this and found more or less what I was looking for here: http://electron9.phys.utk.edu/vectors/3dcoordinates.htm

Except, something is bothering me about those equations. At the very bottom, the equation for Theta in a spherical coordinate system; shouldn't it be
[itex]\theta = {tan^{-1}}( \frac{\sqrt{{x^{2}}+{y^{2}}}}{z})[/itex]
instead of
[itex]\theta = {tan^{-1}}( \frac{z}{\sqrt{{x^{2}}+{y^{2}}}})[/itex]

(The image in question)
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Because [itex]{tan^{-1}}( \frac{opposite}{adjacent}) = \theta[/itex] , and looking at angle [itex]\theta[/itex] , the line opposite of it is exactly equal to [itex]\sqrt{{x^{2}}+{y^{2}}}[/itex] , and the line adjacent to it equal to [itex]z[/itex].

So I'm wondering if I'm in error (and how so if I am) or if the linked page is.
 
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You are correct. That equation on that page is in error.
 
It appears that page is wrong. You're right, the correct relation is

##\theta = \tan ^{-1}\left( \frac{\sqrt{x^2 +y^2 }}{z}\right)##.

You could also write it as ##\theta = \cos ^{-1} \left(\frac{z}{\sqrt{x^2 +y^2 +z^2 }}\right)##Edit: Darn you, jtBell, you beat me by seconds!
 
yep... it sure looks like they've got their sides mixed up.
However, it is more usual to use ##\theta = \cos^{-1}(z/r):r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}##
 
Thanks very much for all the replies! Are the equations for the x, y, and z components from a spherical coordinate system correct on that page, though?

And why is the ##\theta = \cos ^{-1} \left(\frac{z}{\sqrt{x^2 +y^2 +z^2 }}\right)## approach more common? The [itex]\theta = {tan^{-1}}( \frac{\sqrt{{x^{2}}+{y^{2}}}}{z})[/itex] one has less terms. Something to do with higher mathematics?
 

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