Spherical pendulum, linear approximation?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a pendulum in a gravitational field, focusing on deriving the equations of motion in Cartesian coordinates for small displacements. The user expresses frustration with understanding the problem due to a lack of resources and time constraints. A response provides clarity by outlining the forces acting on the pendulum, emphasizing the small angle approximation where sin(theta) approximates theta. This leads to the formulation of a differential equation that resembles that of a harmonic oscillator. The solution to this equation reveals that the mass traces an elliptical path, with the angular frequency (omega) derived as sqrt(g/L) and the period (T) expressed in terms of this frequency. The response aims to guide the user towards completing their problem set independently while providing essential insights into the mechanics of the pendulum's motion.
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Hello there. I'm currently dead beat on this problem, maybe because I'm not sure I quite understand what it's asking (I'm taking my upper level mechanics course in germany, and I don't have any books, and it's the second week, and I'm up at 4am with 2 problem sets due tomorrow, each half done. ahhh!)

Anyway, here's what I interpret:

A pendulum of length L and mass M is in a Gravitationalfield, where it is displaced by a small angle, theta and is lightly nudged. The displacement r is small in comparison to the length, L (r << L). Here, let the motion be treated in the horizontal plane.

a) What are the equations of motion in cartesian coordinates? (hinte: write the gravitational forces on the mass in spherical coordinates, then use the approximation r <<L)

These equations of motion are equivalent to which already known problems?

b) Show that the mass traces out an elliptical pth. Solve here the equations of motion.



I'm lost. I've been working on these sets all day (and since Tuesday, when I had another one due), and I'm just.. my brain is fried.

Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Hi,

at first, you need a drawing showing the relevant forces:

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Due to the displacement of the pendulum, the gravitational force causes a resulting force (according to the drawing):

F_r=-F_G \sin(\theta)=Mg\sin(s/L)

where s is the displacement on the circular arc (because of the definition of radian).

If the angle theta is small, and that is the case, because L >> r, then the displacement on the cirular arc s is approximately equal to the horizontal deplacement, called r (the circle's bending nearly disappears for small distances). Then, you can also use the approach for small angles, that sin(theta) is approximately equal to theta itself.

The formula changes to:

F_r=-Mg\frac{r}{L}

Newton gave us the coherence F = ma (a = F/m):

a=-g\frac{r}{L}

Further, we now the following coherence:

a=\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{d^2 r}{dt^2}

So, we have the differential equation:

\frac{d^2 r}{dt^2}=-\frac{g}{L}r

That reminds us of the harmonical oscillator and we solve the equation as follows:

r(t)=r_0\cos(\omega t)

v(t)=-\omega r_0\sin(\omega t)

a(t)=-\omega^2 r_0\cos(\omega t)

We need the previous formula to get omega:

\frac{d^2 r}{dt^2}=-\frac{g}{L}r

a=-\frac{g}{L}r

-\omega^2 r_0\cos(\omega t)=-\frac{g}{L}r_0\cos(\omega t)

\Rightarrow\omega=\sqrt{\frac{g}{L}}

As \omega=2\pi f: T=\frac{1}{f}=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{g}{L}}

Okay, I hope that was enough to make sure that you can make the rest by yourself.

Bye
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