Spivak Calculus Chapter 1 Problem 3.i

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The problem involves proving the equation ##a / b = ac / bc## under the condition that ##b, c \neq 0##. The context is rooted in the principles of algebra as presented in Spivak's Calculus, specifically referencing the use of properties from section P1-12.

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  • Participants explore the meaning of the expression ##a/b## and its implications, questioning how to rewrite the relationship between the variables involved. Some suggest examining the expression ##ac(bc)^{-1}bc## as a potential approach. There is also a discussion about the constraints of using only the principles from P1-12.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some have expressed uncertainty and are seeking hints to guide their understanding. There is a recognition of the need to clarify definitions and relationships among the variables, but no consensus has been reached on a solution.

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There is an emphasis on the limitations of the problem, particularly regarding the use of certain properties that are not yet proven until later problems in the text. Additionally, participants clarify that the variables in question are real numbers, which may influence their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Prove the following: ##a / b = ac / bc##, if ##b, c \neq 0##.

Homework Equations



P1-12

The Attempt at a Solution


##a/b = a*b^{-1}##
##1 = c*c^{-1}##
##a/b*1 = (a*b^{-1})(c*c^{-1})##
##a/b = (a*c)(b^{-1}*c^{-1})##

Now, if ##b^{-1}c^{-1} = (bc)^{-1}##, then the problem is easy to solve. However, you don't prove this until problem 3.iii and I'm assuming I can only use P1-12.

Some hints about how to proceed would be very helpful.
 
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Shawn Garsed said:

Homework Statement


Prove the following: ##a / b = ac / bc##, if ##b, c \neq 0##.

Homework Equations



P1-12

The Attempt at a Solution


##a/b = a*b^{-1}##
##1 = c*c^{-1}##
##a/b*1 = (a*b^{-1})(c*c^{-1})##
##a/b = (a*c)(b^{-1}*c^{-1})##

Now, if ##b^{-1}c^{-1} = (bc)^{-1}##, then the problem is easy to solve. However, you don't prove this until problem 3.iii and I'm assuming I can only use P1-12.

Some hints about how to proceed would be very helpful.

What is the meaning of ##a/b##; that is, if we say ##a/b = r##, what are we actually saying? In other words, how could you re-write the relation between ##a,b,r## in another way?
 
What about looking at ##ac(bc)^{-1}bc##?
 
Ray Vickson said:
What is the meaning of ##a/b##; that is, if we say ##a/b = r##, what are we actually saying? In other words, how could you re-write the relation between ##a,b,r## in another way?
How did I not see that, I feel so stupid.

##1 = b* b^{-1}##
##a = a *(b* b^{-1})##
##a = (a*b^{-1})*b##
##ac = ((a*b^{-1})*b)*c##
##ac = (a*b^{-1})*(bc)##
##(ac)*(bc)^{-1} = (a*b^{-1})*((bc)*(bc)^{-1})##
##(ac)/(bc) = a/b##

I think this is it.
 
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For someone unfamiliar with Spivak, what are the variables? Numbers?
 
GFauxPas said:
For someone unfamiliar with Spivak, what are the variables? Numbers?

They are real numbers.
 

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