Squaring the Circle: A Practical Squaring Construction

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of "squaring the circle" and whether it is possible to construct a square with the same area as a given circle using only a compass and straightedge. The conversation concludes that this is impossible due to the transcendental nature of pi. However, there are other methods that can be used to approximate the area of a circle with a square figure.
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A Practical Squaring of the Circle.

Does anyone know if this method of construction been done before?

https://imageshack.com/i/exFv7X1Wj
 
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Squaring the Circle is practically an oxymoron for the transcendental nature of Pi as Lindermann-Weierstrass theorem. Do you mean approximating the area of a circle with a square figure?
 
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I'll post some more images. I went for the diagonal first.

https://imageshack.com/i/p9iQ6q4njhttps://imageshack.com/i/ipMPcPZ0j

https://imageshack.com/i/exGgaxiUj

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Lasand said:
A Practical Squaring of the Circle.

Does anyone know if this method of construction been done before?

https://imageshack.com/i/exFv7X1Wj
For starters, ##\pi \neq 3.14##.
"Squaring the circle" was a problem that the ancient Greeks came up with; namely, to construct a square having the same area as that of a given circle, using only a compass and straightedge. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle.
 
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As Mark44 said, "squaring the circle" refers to using only straight edge and compasses to construct a square whose area is exactly the same as the area of a given circle. And as Doug Huffman said, it has long been know that, because "[itex]\pi[/itex]" is "transcendental", that is impossible.

The basic idea is that it can be proven that, given a "unit length", that is a line segment taken to represent the length one, using straight edge and square we can construct only lengths that are "algebraic of order a power of two". If we were able, starting with a circle of radius 1, so area [itex]\pi[/itex], to construct a square of area [itex]\pi[/itex], then we would have constructed a line segment of length [itex]\sqrt{\pi}[/itex] which, like [itex]\pi[/itex] is "transcendental", not "algebraic" of any order. What you have done here is construct a square whose area is almost the same as the give circle but not exactly the same so you have not "squared the circle".

The two other famous "impossible constructions", "trisecting the angle" (given an angle, use only a straight edge and compasses to construct an angle 1/3 as large) and "duplicating the cube" (given a cube, use three dimensional analogues of straight edge an compasses to construct a cube with twice the volume) can be proven impossible in a similar way- these would both be equivalent to constructing the root of a cubic equation, thus constructing a number that is "algebraic of order 3", algebraic alright but its order is not a "power of two".

There are, of course, many ways of constructing thing that are approximately correct and there are even way of doing them exactly using tool other than just straight edge and compasses.
 
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Impossible with ruler and compass, but possible with quadratix
 

FAQ: Squaring the Circle: A Practical Squaring Construction

1. What is "Squaring the Circle" and why is it important?

"Squaring the Circle" is a mathematical problem that involves constructing a square with the same area as a given circle, using only a compass and straightedge. This problem has puzzled mathematicians for centuries, as it is impossible to achieve with these tools alone. However, the concept of "squaring the circle" has been used in various fields such as architecture and engineering, making it an important concept to understand.

2. Is it possible to actually "square the circle"?

No, it is not possible to construct a perfect square with the same area as a given circle using only a compass and straightedge. This is known as the "impossibility of squaring the circle" and has been proven mathematically. However, there are approximate methods and constructions that can come close to achieving this goal.

3. What are some historical attempts at "squaring the circle"?

The ancient Greeks were the first to attempt to "square the circle" using only a compass and straightedge. Many notable mathematicians, such as Archimedes and Leonardo da Vinci, also attempted to solve this problem. In the 19th century, mathematicians proved the impossibility of squaring the circle, leading to the end of serious attempts at solving it.

4. How can "Squaring the Circle" be applied in real life?

The concept of "squaring the circle" has been used in fields such as architecture and engineering to create structures with geometrically pleasing proportions. It has also been used in art and design to create visually appealing compositions. Additionally, the problem has been used in thought experiments in mathematics and philosophy.

5. Are there any practical applications for "Squaring the Circle" in modern mathematics?

No, there are no practical applications for "squaring the circle" in modern mathematics. The problem has been solved and proven to be impossible, and there are no known practical uses for the approximate constructions. However, the concept of "squaring the circle" continues to be studied and discussed as a mathematical curiosity and its applications in other fields.

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