SR830 Lock In Amplifier Not Reading Reference Signal

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues with the SR830 Lock-In Amplifier in various experimental setups, specifically focusing on problems related to reference signal detection and output stabilization. The context includes both a MOKE setup and a vibrating sample magnetometer application.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Danny, describes an issue where the SR830 does not detect the reference signal from a laser modulation setup, despite the signal being visible on an oscilloscope.
  • Another participant suggests that the reference input requires a minimum voltage of 400 mV peak-to-peak and questions whether the setup has previously worked or if the instrument functions with other external references.
  • In response, Danny reports that the reference signal was measured at only 140 mV, and after switching the detector, the reference frequency was successfully detected.
  • Another participant discusses issues with stabilizing the output voltage from the SR830 in a different context involving a vibrating sample magnetometer, seeking advice on stabilization techniques.
  • Suggestions for stabilization include reducing noise, increasing input signal amplitude, adjusting sensitivity settings, increasing the time constant, and enabling filters.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the troubleshooting steps for the SR830, but there are multiple issues being discussed without a consensus on the best approach for stabilization in the vibrating sample magnetometer context.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed information on the specific configurations used in the setups and the varying conditions under which the SR830 operates effectively.

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So here is my dilemma:

We have our SR830 in a MOKE set-up. The modulation of the laser is with a chopper at approximataly 336 Hz. The reference signal is not being picked up by the SR830, but using the same cable the reference frequency is coming up on our oscilloscope. ie, plug the cable into the oscilloscope or DMM and we get the appropriate frequency. Plug it into the SR830, and the "Unlock" light is on with a frequency of exactly 1 kHz, which my adviser says it means it's not getting a signal. The rest of the SR830 seems to be in good working order. Both CH1 and CH2 are picking up signals from our photo detector. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Sorry if the post is skim on details, I'm new to all this.

Thanks for your time,
Danny
 
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"The SR810 and SR830 Lock-In Amplifiers have differential inputs with 6 nV/√Hz input noise. The input impedance is 10 MΩ, and minimum full-scale input voltage sensitivity is 2 nV. "

WOW that's some instrument.

The reference input needs to be 400mV pp minimum. You didn't mention what the voltage is.

Has the setup ever worked?

Does the instrument work in other setups with an external reference?

Can you drive the external reference with a signal generator to test its acquisition range?

Just guessing.
 
Thanks meBigGuy. We measured the voltage on the reference signal and it was only around 140 mV so we switched our detector and got the reference frequency where it should be. Thanks a bunch for the quick response!Sent from my iPhone using Physics Forums
 
I am measuring voltage output from the pick-up coils of a vibrating sample magnetometer using the SR830 lock-in amplifier. The problem is that the channel 1 output voltage cannot be stabilized at all. I read the manual but that is not helpful either. What can I do to stabilize the reading ?
 
Sakin_EEE said:
I am measuring voltage output from the pick-up coils of a vibrating sample magnetometer using the SR830 lock-in amplifier. The problem is that the channel 1 output voltage cannot be stabilized at all. I read the manual but that is not helpful either. What can I do to stabilize the reading ?

*Reduce the amount of noise in your measurement setup. Lock-ins can "cut through" quite a lot of noise, but there are always limits and this should always be the first step
*Increase the amplitude of the input signal
*Make sure you have the SR830 is on the optimal sensitivity range
*Increase the time constant
*Turn on the filters on the input.

Generally speaking, there will always be some trade-off between measurement speed and sensitivity; if your noise is mainly white you can detect some very small signals with a lock-in if you increase the time constant.
 
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