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The problem involves collecting cards, where there are m distinct items in a complete collection. The task is to determine the expected number of cards needed to complete the collection and the standard deviation of that number. The context is rooted in probability and statistics, particularly related to the concept of expectation and distribution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the probability of obtaining different cards and consider the implications of having more cards than distinct types. Some mention the potential relevance of the Geometric Distribution. Others suggest looking into the Coupon Collector's Problem for further insights.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of the problem. Some have offered suggestions for starting points, while others are reflecting on their understanding of the relevant statistical concepts.

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One participant notes a lack of recent experience with probability and statistics, which may influence their approach to the problem. There is also a mention of needing to clarify the probability mass function in relation to the problem.

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Homework Statement



Suppose that I'm collecting cards, and that in a complete collection there are m items.
When buying a new card, there's an equal probability that the card is any of those m cards.

Let X be the number of cards I need to buy in order to get a complete collection

What is the Expectation/Ex of X? What is the Standard Deviation?

Homework Equations



Let X = \sum^{m}_{i=1} X_{i}, where X_{i} is the number of cards I need to buy in order to get a new type of card when I already have i - 1 different types of cards


The Attempt at a Solution



I figure this problem would involve probability mass function, but to be honest I'm stuck as I haven't had any probability or stats in over 10 years.

Any good pointers on how to go on with this problem?
 
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haven't worked it, but say you have n>m cards, then what is the probability of having m different cards might be a place to start...
 
After doing some reading, this looks like something that falls under Geometric Distribution. Correct?
 
dreamspace said:

Homework Statement



Suppose that I'm collecting cards, and that in a complete collection there are m items.
When buying a new card, there's an equal probability that the card is any of those m cards.

Let X be the number of cards I need to buy in order to get a complete collection

What is the Expectation/Ex of X? What is the Standard Deviation?

Homework Equations



Let X = \sum^{m}_{i=1} X_{i}, where X_{i} is the number of cards I need to buy in order to get a new type of card when I already have i - 1 different types of cards


The Attempt at a Solution



I figure this problem would involve probability mass function, but to be honest I'm stuck as I haven't had any probability or stats in over 10 years.

Any good pointers on how to go on with this problem?

Google the Coupon Collector's Problem.

RGV
 

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