How is the steady periodic oscillation used to solve problems?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the application of steady periodic oscillation in solving problems, specifically through the manipulation of trigonometric identities and expressions. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the derivation of a specific equation involving cosine and sine functions.

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  • Participants explore the transformation of the expression involving cosine and sine into a single cosine function with a phase shift. Questions arise about the origin of specific terms and the reasoning behind using trigonometric identities.

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Some participants provide insights into the standard techniques used for combining trigonometric functions, while others seek clarification on the definitions of steady-state and transient components in oscillatory motion. The conversation reflects a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the distinction between steady-state and transient motion in the context of forced oscillations, as well as the relevance of specific trigonometric identities in solving related problems.

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I have a homework problem that I need to use the steady periodic oscillation to solve, so instead of having help on the problem I'd rather just understand how they did it then apply it to my homework (I think that's alright?)

I'm kind of wondering where my book gets this from: $$x_{sp}(t)=5cos4t+4sin4t=\sqrt{41}\left( \frac{5}{\sqrt{41}}cos4t+\frac{4}{\sqrt{41}}sin4t \right)=\sqrt{41}cos(4t-\alpha)$$
Honestly, I have no idea where they even get the square root of 41 either..

I feel like it's some trig substitution, identity, etc. that I'm forgetting, but I can't figure it outAny help is appreciated.
 
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iRaid said:
I have a homework problem that I need to use the steady periodic oscillation to solve, so instead of having help on the problem I'd rather just understand how they did it then apply it to my homework (I think that's alright?)

I'm kind of wondering where my book gets this from: $$x_{sp}(t)=5cos4t+4sin4t=\sqrt{41}\left( \frac{5}{\sqrt{41}}cos4t+\frac{4}{\sqrt{41}}sin4t \right)=\sqrt{41}cos(4t-\alpha)$$

I feel like it's some trig substitution, identity, etc. that I'm forgetting, but I can't figure it outAny help is appreciated.

It's a standard technique. You divide and multiply by ##\sqrt{5^2+4^2}##. That makes the sum of the squares of the new coefficients = 1. So you can think of ##\frac{5}{\sqrt{41}}## as ##\cos(\alpha)## and ##\frac{4}{\sqrt{41}}## as ##\sin(\alpha)## and you have an addition formula. You can draw a little right triangle with legs 4 and 5 to see ##\alpha##.
 
LCKurtz said:
It's a standard technique. You divide and multiply by ##\sqrt{5^2+4^2}##. That makes the sum of the squares of the new coefficients = 1. So you can think of ##\frac{5}{\sqrt{41}}## as ##\cos(\alpha)## and ##\frac{4}{\sqrt{41}}## as ##\sin(\alpha)## and you have an addition formula. You can draw a little right triangle with legs 4 and 5 to see ##\alpha##.

OK that makes sense, but then where do they get the ##\sqrt{41}cos(4t-\alpha)##?
 
Put ##\cos(\alpha)## and ##\sin(\alpha)## in for those two fractions and use the addition formula.
 
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Ah I see now.. ##cos(\alpha)cos(4t)+sin(\alpha)sin(4t)=cos(\alpha-4t)## from the trig addition formulas.

One more question, I'm not sure if you'll know it, but might as well ask... For a forced oscillation, the motion is stated as ##x(t)=x_{tr}(t)+x_{sp}(t)##. In the differential equation how do you know what is the ##x_{sp}(t)## or ##x_{tr}(t)##?
The book states that the transient motion and the steady periodic oscillation of the mass are given by ##x_{sp}(t)##, but I don't even understand what they are trying to say.

Thanks!
 
If your solution looks something like x(t) = cos(at) + e-3tsin(at), the steady-state part is the first term; the transient part is the decaying exponential term, so called because it drops off to zero after a short time.
 
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Mark44 said:
If your solution looks something like x(t) = cos(at) + e-3tsin(at), the steady-state part is the first term; the transient part is the decaying exponential term, so called because it drops off to zero after a short time.

Ahh I see now. Thank you!
 

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