Stress due to rotation in a ring mounted on a shaft

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the stress in a ring mounted on a solid steel shaft that is rotating at varying speeds. Participants explore the effects of centrifugal force and material properties on stress, considering both constant and changing angular speeds.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the calculation of stress in a rotating ring, providing known parameters such as density, geometry, and material properties.
  • Another participant suggests that if angular speed is constant, stress arises from centrifugal force, while changing angular speed introduces torsional stress due to angular acceleration.
  • It is proposed that if the modulus of elasticity of the ring is less than that of the shaft, the ring may expand more than the shaft, potentially leading to kinematic friction at their interface.
  • Conversely, if the modulus of elasticity of the ring is greater than that of the shaft, the shaft's expansion could apply pressure against the ring, necessitating consideration of both centrifugal force and this pressure in stress calculations.
  • A participant confirms that in their scenario, the modulus of elasticity of the ring is always greater than that of the shaft and that the angular speed is constant, seeking to establish equilibrium for the problem.
  • Another participant suggests ignoring the compression force from the shaft on the ring for a first-order approximation, emphasizing that stress primarily results from centrifugal force under constant angular speed.
  • There is a request for clarification on how to use centrifugal force to calculate stress and what the equilibrium would entail, with all necessary data available.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the contributions to stress in the ring, particularly regarding the effects of material properties and angular speed. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the best approach to calculate the stress or establish equilibrium.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the problem, with assumptions about material properties and the nature of angular speed affecting the analysis. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps required for equilibrium or the specific equations needed for stress calculation.

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Hello!



I would like to know how to calculate the stress in a ring that is mounted on a solid steel shaft. The shaft and ring is rotating at a couple of 100 rounds per minute up to a 1000 rounds per minute.

The density for both materials are know, the geometry is know and material properties as well such as the E-modulus.

The ring is assumed not to rotate faster or slower than the shaft, as they are connected well enough...



Any tips or equations on how to solve this one?



Thanks

Daniel
 
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If the angular speed is constant, then the stress develops from centrifugal force.

If the angular speed is changing, then the stress has an additional component - torsional stress from the angular acceleration.

If E.ring < E.shaft Then
The ring and shaft will expand from centrifugal forces, but the ring is inclined to expand more than the stiffer shaft. I would assume that the shaft is "driving" with an applied torque and the ring is "driven". Essentially, the ring might swell to become larger than the shaft, but then it would loose its grip and want to not increase its speed any further. I would presume that kinematic friction would develop at the interface as the ring would rotate slightly slower than the driving ring.

If E.ring > E.shaft Then
The ring will expand from centrifugal forces, but there is more ...
The shaft will expand at a rate more than that of the ring, thus applying a pressure against the inside face of the ring. This needs to be included with the centrifugal force.

Interesting problem.
 
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Thank you.

For my problem E.ring will always be larger that the shaft. And the angular speed is constant as well. The ring is assumed to never loose grip.
Is there anyway to put up equlibrium for this and solve?
 
For first order approximation (good enough for most applications), I would ignore the compression force that the inner shaft imparts on the outer ring. So, the stress on the ring is predominately:

1) If the angular speed is constant, then the stress develops from centrifugal force. This usually is primary.

2) If the angular speed is changing, then the stress has an additional component - torsional stress from the angular acceleration. This usually is secondary.
 
Yes, how do I use the centrifugal force to calculate the stress?
What would the equlibrium be?
I got the density and all geomtrical data.
 

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