Stress generated by a bending moment

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The discussion centers around the theoretical concepts of stress generated by bending moments in different cross-sectional shapes, specifically rectangular and circular cross sections. Participants explore the reasons for differing formulas used in these cases, addressing both the mathematical and conceptual aspects of the topic.

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  • One participant expresses confusion over why different formulas are used for calculating stress in rectangular versus circular cross sections.
  • Another participant explains that rectangular sections have a natural direction for coordinate axes, which simplifies calculations, while circular sections allow for any pair of orthogonal axes, leading to simpler equations.
  • Some participants suggest that while arbitrary axes can be chosen for both shapes, the numerical answers will ultimately be the same.
  • A later reply requests additional resources for further study on the topic, indicating ongoing confusion.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the explanations provided, as one participant continues to express confusion and seeks further resources. The discussion reflects differing levels of understanding regarding the application of formulas for different cross sections.

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The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the underlying assumptions of the formulas and the dependency on the choice of coordinate axes, which may not be fully resolved in the conversation.

Amaelle
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Good day all,
I have an issue regarding the theoretical concept regarding the stress generated by the skew bending
in a rectangular cross section for example
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the formula used to calculated the stress is
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while when it is a circular cross section we have the following formula
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I really can't understand why we use different formulas in the second case (I couldn't understand the given explanations)
many thanks in advance
 

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In the case of the rectangle, there is a natural direction for the coordinate axes. You do not have to use those, but if you choose something else then the calculations of the moments get messy.

For the circle, it is clear that you can choose any pair of orthogonal axes. The moments will be the same. So it is convenient to choose axes that are orthogonal to / parallel to the bending moment. That gives the simpler equation found.
You could, again, choose arbitrary axes and use the same equation as for the rectangle, but numerically the answer will be the same.
 
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haruspex said:
In the case of the rectangle, there is a natural direction for the coordinate axes. You do not have to use those, but if you choose something else then the calculations of the moments get messy.

For the circle, it is clear that you can choose any pair of orthogonal axes. The moments will be the same. So it is convenient to choose axes that are orthogonal to / parallel to the bending moment. That gives the simpler equation found.
You could, again, choose arbitrary axes and use the same equation as for the rectangle, but numerically the answer will be the same.
Thanks a lot for your answer, but this point still confuses me, could you please point me out a link where i can study more this particular issue?
many thanks in advance
 
Amaelle said:
Thanks a lot for your answer, but this point still confuses me, could you please point me out a link where i can study more this particular issue?
many thanks in advance
I do not know any links to recommend. There must be lots out there, but you can search them as easily as I can.
 

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