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Stressed over nothing?

  1. Mar 18, 2005 #1
    My school is scheduling for next year. I'm going to be a senior. Scary. After fixing some problems with my transcript (people messed up my grades and credits and such), I began putting together my schedule.

    I mostly have "A"s and a few "B"s and a couple of "C"s (physics and geometry). I'm really nervous about how my transcripts will look to some of the schools I am applying to. Some of them are Northeastern, MIT, University of Maine, and some others out of a total of 14 schools, some of which are music. I understand why I have "C"s in physics, its because of an extinuating health problem which prevents me from attending school everyday and we readapted my schedule to make it easier for me to attend.

    Even with all these things going on, I have a GPA of 3.759 and a class rank of top 20. I can't help but feel like its not a good GPA at all. I feel ashamed that my GPA is only a 3.759. Am I stressing about something I should be proud of and happy with? Id having a 3.759 a good GPA? Do I have any hope of getting into these schools? Or should I just squish all my hopes? Please help out I really don't know what to do.
     
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  3. Mar 18, 2005 #2
    only time will tell my friend, only time will tell. For now, don't stress.

    Regards,

    Nenad
     
  4. Mar 18, 2005 #3
    don't stress about it. just be sure to apply to a good range of schools. One thing I've learned after going to school twice (currently right now) is that you get out of a school what you put into it. So big names don't really matter for your enrichment.
     
  5. Mar 18, 2005 #4
    What if you put your all into it? How do you negate the frustration? I put in my damnedest into my education, especially having to teach myself advanced algebra and cp physics? Can that be considered a good GPA considering my situation? When this happend I feel like I got seriously shafted!

    Thanks Nenad.
     
  6. Mar 18, 2005 #5
    Ask yourself this: Is there is anything at all in the world that you can do about it right now? If the answer is no, or, yes but I'm not doing that, then there is absolutely no point in wasting any effort whatsoever in worrying about it.

    I had to drop diff EQ this morning. I still don't understand how I could have done every homework problem since day one and understood every homework problem since day one, and somehow, I still got 50%, 65%, and 45% on the first 3 tests. 28 student started this class, 16 took the most recent test, of those 16, 8 failed. I can honestly say, when getting ready for this most recent test, I totally gave it my all. I studied for at least 45 hours. I did every single problem from chapter 1 through chapter 6, the test covered chapter 4.5 through chapter 6. Looking back on the week leading up to the most recent test, I can honestly say, there is nothing else, short of quitting my job, that I could have done to get myself more ready for that test. However, I can only recall 3 times today that it crossed my mind, each time, I answered the question above with a resounding NO. Am I pissed about it? sure. Am I going to let it affect me and bother me for a long time, hell no, what's the point, what does it accomplish??? Again, answer the question above and just forget about it.
     
  7. Mar 18, 2005 #6
    Good to know that I'm not the only person this happens to. Thanks for the advice.
     
  8. Mar 18, 2005 #7
    misskitty: I wouldn't worry too much about the GPA provided you state up front somewhere on your application "this is why it happened" in the space where they ask if there's any more information you want to provide. And get your guidance counselor to mention it too while you're at it. Schools understand that life happens, and if you explain yourself they'll forgive you provided it's only a one time thing (as in your grades were good when you didn't have health problems to worry about). So cheer up. :smile:
     
  9. Mar 18, 2005 #8
    EDIT - (ommitted; irrelevant to the topic)
     
  10. Mar 18, 2005 #9
    Seriously, the only thing that matters is grad school, as most undergrad courses are somewhat the same. Just go to a school you like, study something you feel passionate about, get a good GPA, and apply to grad school.

    I had a 3.0 in high school, and I am maintaining a 3.8 in college here. It all depends on hard work. But mostly, I found that most things taught in high school are wrong to a certaind degree. So don't even worry about the GPA. The main way to do well in college is time management, and NO PARTIES!
     
  11. Mar 19, 2005 #10
    Thanks everyone. Its good to know that not everyone on this cite has an unwavering 4.0 since freshman year in high school. YOUR HUMAN! :biggrin:

    Awww!!But Aszyteen, can't I party just a little? :wink: just kidding, :biggrin:
     
  12. Mar 19, 2005 #11
    Don't listen to this. There is plenty of time to party at university. I'd say if you dont pary, you'll end up doing worse than if you do. Sometimes, you need to chillax and stop worrying about school. Partying is one of these many times.

    Regards,

    Nenad
     
  13. Mar 19, 2005 #12

    mathwonk

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    the point is to take pleasure in thinking about the material, not from comparing your gpa to someone else's. its the physics that counts, not the grades.
     
  14. Mar 19, 2005 #13
    True, but the GPA is going to help me get in...or at least I hope so.
    I'm not much into parties as it is :shy: I'm not a big social butterfly.
     
  15. Mar 19, 2005 #14

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    The point is to have something to do that takes your mind off studying every once in a while. I wasn't into parties, either. I hung out with about a half-dozen other physics majors in the evening in the college's "physics library" (a spare room with big tables, some books and a desk calculator). Sometimes we worked on homework, sometimes we just goofed off, sometimes we went out for long walks. This was in a really tiny town, a village really, and it was "dry" so there weren't any bars. You could go a few blocks in any direction and be in cornfields or woods or whatever.

    And I was (and still am) into classical music and some other hobbies, and I can go off and immerse myself in those for a few hours to refresh my mind.
     
  16. Mar 19, 2005 #15
    Good advice. That is a bit more my speed. It is definitely good to remove your mind from your studies everyonce in a while. I'd burn myself out if I didn't have something to take my mind off of my studies. I'm still trying to take Andromeda's advice. It kinda bugs me that I didn't get into a summer advanced studies program. I was one of 550 total applicants. Now I'm wait listed. :frown: As far as my GPA goes, I kind of feel like I'm not all that intelligent if I've got only a 3.7. However there are people like me who stress about it and they've got lower numbers than I do.

    Like you, I'm hugely involved in music, if I'm not writing lyrics, singing or playing I'm listening to it. My life revolves around music. :smile:

    It provides the perfect escape from society, especially when I get to perform it.
     
  17. Mar 20, 2005 #16
    Dont worry about your gpa being a 3.7, thats not bad at all. I will (hopefully) have a gpa somewhere around that when I graduate. I got two C's freshman year which really messed me up. With a 4.0 you would still have to worry about getting into the schools like MIT and such. Truth is that grades aren't the only factor they take into mind when deciding your fate. This will just be undergrad school so don't worry if you don't get into your favorite school. If your essay's are really good than that combined with a 3.7 could be even better than getting a 4.0 with a sh***y essay. Like a lotof people said, admittance into more prestigous universities is almost random sometimes. One last thing, intelligence isn't messured by your grades at all. You mess up as a human, that's just how it is. Perfect grades do not equal intelligence. People who have a 4.0 and think that they are smart just because of that are usually pretty weird people :P
     
  18. Mar 20, 2005 #17
    Didn't know that. Good information Moose.
     
  19. Mar 20, 2005 #18
    Did you take the SAT and ACT yet? If I had the chance, I would have taken them again and again. I only took the ACT once, and I didn't even take the SAT, and now I realized those scores are important to colleges and for scholarships!

    I still got into the college of my choice, and I'll be going there this fall, but my point is this: Take those tests over and over and you'll keep improving your scores...
     
  20. Mar 20, 2005 #19
    ok, but what about those of us who are in the lower end of the spectrum?

    I really want to attend grad school, but my grades are less than stellar. I am in 2nd year, and my overall average is 72% (about 3.1 GPA), with a 78% in physics courses (3.4-ish). I know that to go to grad school, you need about a 3.0 - 3.25 GPA (absolute minimum). So what are my chances of getting in to grad school (realistically)? I am in Canada, so I would like to pursue a M.Sc initially, and we also do not have to take the GRE.

    What could I possibly do to increase my chances of getting accepted, since I don't exactly have a 3.7?
     
  21. Mar 20, 2005 #20
    I know a few people like that, and they occasionally have a tendency to be egoists and flaunters. I don't have a perfect 4.0 GPA myself (it too is around 3.7ish), but I don't focus on grades so much as learning and understanding the material. We all get bad grades occasionally, just don't let a 4.0 ideal discourage you.

    Many a times I have psychologically bashed myself over numerical status (such as GPA, class rank, SAT scores), but in reality, I'd much rather talk to an intelligent person with a low GPA than a conceited 4.0 average person. Numbers and people don't mix too well. I'm a 2nd clarinetist, does that make me any less of a person?

    Good. Anything that can relieve the stresses of life is a good thing.
     
  22. Mar 20, 2005 #21
    A few blemishes on your transcript is not always a bad thing. I messed up my freshmen year in high school. I did not care then because of the environment. My family then moved and I made it up and recieved a 4.0 for the next 3 years in a row. I now have a 3.9. When just talking to a dean of admissions (not the university I am attending). She said this probably helped me. It shows that you did struggle. It shows that you can work and overcome it. Make sure that next year is a 4.0. Throw in some honors classes, and not blow off ones like AP basket weaving if it is offered :).

    Honestly, MIT will be out of reach. It may not be impossible but that will be a 4.0 and then some school. There was a recent thread where a student had, if I remember right, a 4.0 and a 5 on the AP physics test along with another 5 on the Calculus one. He did not get in. Granted he is a male. And if white or asian does not help. I heard MIT was straining for diversity and a 1:1 gender ratio. Well, now to get off the tangent. Maine should not be a problem though. What other schools were you looking at? Oh, and still apply to MIT. You never know. And you have to have a dream school. Just do not get too hopeful. No one should.
     
  23. Mar 20, 2005 #22

    mathwonk

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    reading these posts makes me sad. you guys seem to be obsessing over things that do not matter.

    one guy regretted not retaking the sats even though he got into the school of his choice! how pointless can you get?

    obviously taking them over again and raising your grade does not make you smarter or better qualified.

    there is hardly a school out there that does not have excellent professors.

    don't you realize that you do not want to get into a school that is not suited for you? if you have lower scores, and the scores have any meaning at all, then you belong at a school aimed at students with lower scores.

    you may be over your head at one aimed at very high scoring students. that is not a shame, its called getting accepted at the school that is a good fit for you.

    i am a college professor with experience in high school teaching and advising, and graduate school admissions, and hiring.
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2005
  24. Mar 20, 2005 #23
    The problem is - as I've mentioned in the SAT thread - the scores, in particular the SAT, don't have as much meaning as one would like.

    It does depend on your major though. If your goal is to be in a competitive and quantitative major like physics or math, then you're better off in a school with averages in SAT II's that are fairly close to your own, otherwise you'll probably be way over your head in classes.

    If your goal is simply to graduate from a prestigious school - one can do that without having top-notch entrance-exam scores. There are more than enough people who graduate from Harvard in soft majors who had low SAT scores coming in. Some jocks, for example.
     
  25. Mar 21, 2005 #24
    What I got from this guys post is that he never knew just how much of an impact those tests have on your college apps. I know after doing mine I was thinking 'damn, I really should've done this.' It's more of advice along the lines of 'I've done this before. Here is what I learned.'
     
  26. Mar 21, 2005 #25
    Yes, that is what I was talking about in reference to the SATs. I'm applying for scholarships that require good ACT/SAT scores, and now I wish I'd taken them so I'd have a better chance at more money.

    So the main reason for me was scholarship money...I'm not exactly rich and I'm not sure if I can handle a job my freshman year on campus.
     
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