Structural Engineering - Deflection

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The discussion revolves around calculating the deflection of a simply supported steel beam under a central load. Participants explore the appropriate formula and clarify the variables involved, including the modulus of elasticity, moment of inertia, and the beam's length. The context includes both theoretical and practical aspects of structural engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the formula for deflection, providing specific parameters for the beam.
  • Another participant states the formula for maximum deflection as \(\delta = \frac{PL^3}{48EI}\), explaining the meaning of the variables involved.
  • There is confusion about the meaning of \(L\) and the significance of the number 48 in the formula, with questions about whether the beam's length is considered in the calculation.
  • A participant corrects the unit conversion, emphasizing that the length should be in inches for the calculation.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about their calculated deflection value, indicating a potential error in their approach.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the moment of inertia and its representation in the formula, with a participant providing a detailed substitution of values into the equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the formula for deflection but express differing interpretations of the variables and calculations involved. There is no consensus on the correct deflection value, as participants arrive at different results.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of consistent units in calculations. There are unresolved questions about the moment of inertia and the implications of the beam's length in the formula.

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I'm not sure the formula to use to calculate the deflection of a beam. Here's the information I have got.

Steel beam is 50 feet long. There is a 6,000 pound load in the middle(all other loads are disregarded. The modulus of elasticity is 29,000,000 psi. Moment of inertia is 850 inches^4. There are simple pin connections at either end.

What would be the formula for calculating this?? :D An answer would be nice to :approve: lol
 
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The beam deflection for a simply supported beam with a load in the center of the span (neglecting the beam's own mass) is:

\delta = (PL^3)/(48EI)

Where:
\delta = Deflection
P = Load
E = Modulus of Elasticity (Young's Modulus)
I = Moment of Inertia
 
FredGarvin said:
The beam deflection for a simply supported beam with a load in the center of the span (neglecting the beam's own mass) is:

\delta = (PL^3)/(48EI)

Where:
\delta = Deflection
P = Load
E = Modulus of Elasticity (Young's Modulus)
I = Moment of Inertia

What's the L mean?! And the 48? Does the length of the beam have no place in the calculation?

So \delta = (PL^3)/(48EI) would be:

6000^3 / 48 x 29,000,000 x 850^4 = 0.000000000297261601 ?
 
The equation specified is for the maximum deflection (i.e. at mid point) of this simply supported beam.

L is the beam length between hinges.

48 is a value coming from the solution of the beam equation for this beam, load (pointwise at midpoint) and boundary conditions (hinges).

This problem has been asked in the Homework: College Level forum.
 
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My apologies for the omission.

Thanks for the cover Astronuc
 
bbg5000 said:
What's the L mean?! And the 48? Does the length of the beam have no place in the calculation?

So \delta = (PL^3)/(48EI) would be:

6000^3 / 48 x 29,000,000 x 850^4 = 0.000000000297261601 ?


You want your deflection in inches, so your length is 300", not 25'.
The way I read it, it would be (6000 x 300^3) / (48 x 29,000,000 x 850^4)
= (6000 x 27,000,000) / (48 x 29,000,000 x 522,006,250,000)
From there, it's simple math. My kid asked me how to do this. It's a
neopets.com "Lenny Conundrum" puzzle...
 
deflection

I too am trying to work out the Lenny Conundrum. The length is 50 feet, so 600 inches :wink:
And after using all those calculations, I came up with a very incorrect answer! 1.78 inches as the deflection? I don't think I'm doing this correctly! :confused:
 
The weight is at the center of the 50 foot beam, not the end...
 
There seems to be some confusion regarding the moment of inertia (850^4)as reflected by the use in the forumula above.

FredGarvin posted the equation for the maximum deflection for this problem, which so happens to be at the location of the load, the midpoint of the beam.

P = 6000 lbf
L = 50 ft = 600 in
E = 29,000,000 psi (lbf/in2)
I = 850 in4

units must be consistent.

So sustituting the values into the equation above

\delta = (6000\,psi * (600\,in)^3)/(48*29,000,000\,lbf/in^2 * 850\,in^4) = 1.0953 in

To the units should cancel with the result that the deflection \delta is given in units of 'in' or inches.
 

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