Structure constants of Lie groups

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The discussion focuses on reparametrizing the rotation group using new infinitesimal parameters and calculating the structure constants associated with these parameters. The assumptions confirm that the infinitesimal parameters are generators of the rotation group and that the transformation can be expressed in a general form involving functions fki(x). The challenge lies in determining these functions, which are essential for maintaining the Lie group structure. Clarifications provided indicate how to relate the new parameters to the original transformation and derive the necessary expressions for fki(x). Understanding these relationships is crucial for calculating the structure constants of the Lie group.
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Source: Anderson, Principles of Relativity Physics

p. 13, prob. 1.4

"Reparametrize the rotation group by taking, as new infinitesimal parameters, ε1 = ε23, ε2 = ε31, and ε3 = ε12 and calculate the structure constants for these parameters."

My assumptions:

(1)
The εij mentioned in the problem are the infinitesimal Cartesian parameters of the 3-D rotation group such that εij = -εji, and yi = xi + Σjεijxj, where x is the original point and y is the transformed point.

(2)
To generalize this to non-Cartesian coordinates and still maintain the Lie group-ness, the transformation takes the general form:

yi = xi + Σkεkfki(x)

where the fki(x) satisfy the following condition.

(3)
The request for structure constants is a request for constants ckmn such that:

yi = xi + ΣkΣmΣnBmεAn - εAmεBn)ckmnfki(x)

(4)
The parameters εk are the non-Cartesian parameters, and so, they should multiply some functions fki(x), and these functions determine the structure constants.

My problem with understanding:

I don't know how to find the fki(x). I have:

Σjεijxj = Σkεkfki(x)

but I don't see how this tells me fik(x). Am I supposed to assume some kind of orthogonality or something?
 
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Do I need to use some sort of change of coordinates? If so, how? Can anyone help me out? Thanks!
 




Thank you for your question. The structure constants of Lie groups are important in understanding the algebraic properties of these groups, and your question about finding the fki(x) is a valid one. Allow me to provide some clarification and guidance on how to approach this problem.

Firstly, your assumptions (1) and (2) are correct. The infinitesimal parameters εij are the generators of the rotation group, and the transformation takes the general form yi = xi + Σkεkfki(x), where fki(x) are functions that satisfy certain conditions to maintain the Lie group structure.

To find the structure constants ckmn, we need to consider the transformation of a point x under the new parameters ε1, ε2, and ε3. Using the given reparametrization, we have:

yi = xi + ε23f1(x) + ε31f2(x) + ε12f3(x)

Expanding this out, we get:

yi = xi + ε2(f1(x) - f3(x)) + ε3(f1(x) + f2(x)) + ε1(f2(x) - f3(x))

Comparing this with the general form of the transformation, we can see that:

f12(x) = f1(x) - f3(x)
f13(x) = f1(x) + f2(x)
f23(x) = f2(x) - f3(x)

Now, using the condition mentioned in assumption (3), we can write:

f12(x) = -ε3f13(x) + ε2f23(x)
f13(x) = ε3f12(x) - ε1f23(x)
f23(x) = ε1f13(x) - ε2f12(x)

Substituting these expressions into the general form of the transformation, we get:

yi = xi + ε1f12(x) + ε2f13(x) + ε3f23(x)

Comparing this with the given form of the transformation, we can see that:

f12(x) = f1(x) - f3(x) = f1(x) + ε23f3(x) - ε31f2(x)
f13(x) = f1(x) + f2(x) = f1(x) - ε23f2(x) + ε12f3(x)
f23(x) = f2(x) - f3
 
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