Summing Taylor Series: Tips & Tricks

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the summation of Taylor series, specifically focusing on the Taylor series for the sine function around x=0. Participants explore the correct formulation of the series in summation notation and seek tips for recognizing patterns in the series.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in summing the Taylor series for sin(x) and provides an incorrect series involving only even powers of x.
  • Another participant corrects the first by stating that sin(x) is an odd function and provides the correct Taylor series for sin(x) as \(\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}\).
  • A later reply reiterates the correct series and questions how the initial expression was derived.
  • One participant acknowledges the mistake and clarifies that their trouble lies in rewriting the Taylor series in summation notation, asking if there are recognizable patterns to aid in this process.
  • Another participant suggests that recognizing the odd powers and alternating signs is key to forming the summation, providing a breakdown of how to derive the series from its terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the initial expression provided for the Taylor series of sin(x), with multiple participants correcting the original claim. The discussion around recognizing patterns in Taylor series remains unresolved, as participants offer different insights without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of their corrections or the broader context of Taylor series beyond the sine function, leaving some assumptions and dependencies unaddressed.

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Expanding the series to the n^{th} derivative isn't so hard, however I'm having trouble with the summation. Any tips for the summation?
e.g. taylor series for sinx around x=0 in summation notation is \sum^\infty_{n=0} \frac{x^{4n}}{2n!}
Thanks.
 
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Cpt Qwark said:
Expanding the series to the n^{th} derivative isn't so hard, however I'm having trouble with the summation. Any tips for the summation?
e.g. taylor series for sinx around x=0 in summation notation is \sum^\infty_{n=0} \frac{x^{4n}}{2n!}
Thanks.
No, it isn't. For one thing, sin(x) is an odd function while your series includes only even power of x. The Taylor's series for sin(x) about x= 0 is \sum_{n=o}^\infty \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}. What you have appears to be the Taylor's series, about x= 0, for cos(x^2), except that the denominator should be (2n)! rather than 2n!.

In any case, what do you mean "having trouble with the summation". What are you trying to do?
 
(edit: didn't notice HallsOfIvy had already answered)

No, the Taylor series sum around x=0 (i.e. the Maclaurin series sum) for ## \sin x ## is $$ \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^k x^{(1+2 k)}}{(1+2 k)!} $$. How did you get to the expression you wrote?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
No, it isn't. For one thing, sin(x) is an odd function while your series includes only even power of x. The Taylor's series for sin(x) about x= 0 is \sum_{n=o}^\infty \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}. What you have appears to be the Taylor's series, about x= 0, for cos(x^2), except that the denominator should be (2n)! rather than 2n!.

In any case, what do you mean "having trouble with the summation". What are you trying to do?

MrAnchovy said:
(edit: didn't notice HallsOfIvy had already answered)

No, the Taylor series sum around x=0 (i.e. the Maclaurin series sum) for ## \sin x ## is $$ \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^k x^{(1+2 k)}}{(1+2 k)!} $$. How did you get to the expression you wrote?

Yeah sorry turns out it was mistook for another expression.
Anywas, what I meant was I had trouble rewriting the taylor/maclaurin series with a summation notation (Σ). Are there supposed to be patterns that you're supposed to recognise (such as the negative sign for sine and cosine functions) or something?
 
I'm not always in favour of Khan Academy but this might help.
 
Or is it just getting from ## x - \frac{x^3}{3!} +\frac{x^5}{5!} -\frac{x^7}{7!} +\frac{x^9}{9!} - ... ## to the summation formula that is giving you problems?

If so then yes, you need to practice recognising parts of terms like this:
  • first note you can always write ## x ## as ## \frac{x^1}{1!} ##
  • now notice you have odd numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9...: you can generate these with ## 2k + 1 ## - that gives you ## \frac{x^{2k+1}}{(2k+1)!} ##
  • now you just need the alternating + and - signs: -1 to an even power is 1 and to an odd power is -1 so, making sure you start off with the right one (you want the 0th term to have ## 1 = (-1)^0 ## not ## -1 = (-1)^{0+1} ##) you have ## (-1)^k ##
  • put them all together, add the sum remembering to go from ## k=0 ## - full marks!
 

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