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Alvydas said:Why just not to try to find where exactly people make mistakes?
Because your setup doesn't do that.
Alvydas said:Why just not to try to find where exactly people make mistakes?
Alvydas said:Why just not to try to find where exactly people make mistakes?
sophiecentaur said:If you are suggesting that there is a "mistake" then you will, presumably, have some idea (calculation?) about just how big this mistake could be. How 'wrong' and by how much are you suggesting the present theory could be?
It is 'not Science' to propose just doing an experiment to see what happens; you need to make a prediction about a quantity or relationship (at least an order of magnitude) that can be verified. You initial diagram suggests an angle for the beam to be deviated. What is your suggested value of this angle?
You see, what you are proposing seems to make no sense (to me and others), so people would need some convincing if they were to bother to use it as a basis for investing in an experiment.
sophiecentaur said:I noticed two issues in your last post:
What do you mean by the word "impulse" in this context? Impulse has a specific meaning. Are you referring to Momentum? What actual direction is your photon traveling in?
If you look at the two vectors (v and c) on your diagram, they will have a resultant that has greater magnitude than c. That is hardly in accordance with what we know about the speed of light.
Try to predict the result of the experiment, using calculus only. No hand-wavy argumentation, just simple calculations.I do not understand a little what numbers are not clear for you when you talk about the lack of calculations?
mfb said:Try to predict the result of the experiment, using calculus only. No hand-wavy argumentation, just simple calculations.
sophiecentaur said:@Alvydas
There have been countless experiments with satellites so you need not suggest any further, 'home-brewed' experiments to show this effect. The fact is that it hasn't been observed.
It strikes me that you are making a very common mistake here. You have studied a certain amount of this topic and you feel qualified to launch into fundamental research into Earth-shattering new ideas. I should give it a few more years of basic education in Physics before you try to change the world. At this stage, I think you could use your time more profitably than championing a cause which, in a few year's time, you will see is a non-starter. This is 'fun' but nothing else.
Do you seriously think that none of this has been considered in detail, by competent Physicists and rejected on very good grounds already?
[edit: - your last post was there since I wrote this. You seem to be refusing to consider approaching this with Maths. In that case, you are bound to fail. There hasn't been a single bit of worthwhile Physics work that has been undertaken without Maths for at least 100 years. The actual Numbers are what count in this sort of thing. For a start - how would this experiment work without a vast amount of number crunching? Analogies are in the same league as self-invented simulations; they prove nothing.]
sophiecentaur said:If you are suggesting that there is a "mistake" then you will, presumably, have some idea (calculation?) about just how big this mistake could be. How 'wrong' and by how much are you suggesting the present theory could be?
Alvydas said:There is extremely good example how dangerous are calculations without visual understanding.
A diffraction grating is an optical component that consists of a large number of parallel, closely spaced, and evenly spaced slits or grooves. It is used to disperse light into its component wavelengths, making it a useful tool for analyzing the properties of light.
A diffraction grating works by causing light to diffract or spread out as it passes through the narrow slits or grooves. This results in a pattern of bright and dark fringes, known as a diffraction pattern, which can be used to determine the wavelengths of light present in the incident beam.
While both a diffraction grating and a prism can disperse light into its component wavelengths, they work in different ways. A prism uses refraction to bend different wavelengths of light at different angles, while a diffraction grating uses diffraction to separate the wavelengths based on their interference patterns.
The spacing between the slits in a diffraction grating is directly related to the spacing of the bright and dark fringes in the resulting diffraction pattern. The smaller the spacing between the slits, the larger the angle between the fringes, and the more dispersed the light will be.
A diffraction grating is commonly used in scientific research to analyze the properties of light, such as its wavelength and intensity. It is also used in various spectroscopy techniques to study the composition of materials and identify unknown substances based on their unique spectral signatures.