Super Node Analysis: Find V1,V2,V3,I1,I2,I3

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The discussion revolves around solving for voltages V1, V2, and V3, as well as currents I1, I2, and I3 in a circuit analysis involving a supernode. Initial equations derived from the supernode analysis included V3-V1=40 and a combination of voltage relationships leading to 4V1-3V2=-80 and -3V1+5V2=80. Participants debated the validity of obtaining a zero voltage for V2, with one contributor affirming that a zero potential is acceptable. Concerns were raised about the sign of V1, suggesting it should be positive due to its connection to a voltage source. The conversation highlights the importance of careful equation setup and validation in circuit analysis.
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Homework Statement


Find V1,V2,V3,I1,I2,I3

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Analysis at super node:
V3-V1=40 (equation 1)

(V1/40)+(V1-V2/40)+(V3-V2/20)=0
2V1 - 3V2 +2V3 = 0
After substituting in equation 1:
4V1-3V2 = -80

Analysis at V2

(V1-V1/40)+(V2/20)+(V2-V3/20)=0
After substituting in equation 1:
-3V1+5V2 = 80

But I think I'm doing something wrong, I don't feel like the voltages should be zero...
 

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For your supernode equation, you left out the term for the 20 Ω resistor between V3 and the reference node.

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Oh ok, I fixed that part and now I have these equations:

6V1-3V2=-160 and -3V1+5V2=80

When I solve for V2, I get zero. And for V1 I get -26.7. Is it ok for one of the voltages to be zero?
 
jdawg said:
Oh ok, I fixed that part and now I have these equations:

6V1-3V2=-160 and -3V1+5V2=80

When I solve for V2, I get zero. And for V1 I get -26.7. Is it ok for one of the voltages to be zero?
I question the sign of your V1. Since it's directly connected to the + terminal of the only voltage source I would expect it to have a positive potential. Check your math.

Zero is a perfectly good value for a potential for V2. In fact, it looks correct to me :smile:
 
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