Suppose you have an electron in the infinite square well

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Suppose you have an electron in the infinite square well. The system is completely isolated from the rest of the world and has been its entire lifetime.
Do we then know that the wave function describing the electron is an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian? The question arose because I was given a problem where the intial wave function was a linear combination of eigenstates, which I guess is perfectly possible. But then I thought: Did God create this state or was it created because we had some potential from outside which put it there and was then turned off.
It seems that for all practical calculations you always assume that the electrons are described by their corresponding eigenstates (free electron gas etc. etc.)
 

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It seems that for all practical calculations you always assume that the electrons are described by their corresponding eigenstates (free electron gas etc. etc.)
Certainly not. The new Nobel prize in chemistry is a good counterexample for relevant work which is not based on this assumption.
 
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Suppose you have an electron in the infinite square well. The system is completely isolated from the rest of the world and has been its entire lifetime.
Do we then know that the wave function describing the electron is an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian? The question arose because I was given a problem where the intial wave function was a linear combination of eigenstates, which I guess is perfectly possible. But then I thought: Did God create this state or was it created because we had some potential from outside which put it there and was then turned off.
It seems that for all practical calculations you always assume that the electrons are described by their corresponding eigenstates (free electron gas etc. etc.)
Hamiltonian eigenstates have no physical time dependence whatsoever (there's a time dependent phase, but cancels out of all physical calculations). If everything were always in such an eigenstate, nothing would ever happen. So it's a good thing that's not the case!
 
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But do you agree with me that for oscillations in solids, free electrons in solid you generally take the approach that the electrons are in eigenstates of the Hamiltonian for a start - it's sort of an equilibrium assumption.
Actually: Suppose an electron is in an eigenstate of some weird potential and you suddenly turn the potential off. Will the electron state then seek towards an eigenstate of the free electrons.
 

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