What is the relationship between sup of unbounded sets in real numbers?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the proof of the statement that if V is a subset of W, then the supremum of V is less than or equal to the supremum of W. The first part of the conversation establishes the values of the supremum for empty sets and unbounded sets. The second part discusses using a proof by contrapositive to prove the statement and confirms its validity.
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1. sup (empty set) = -infinity, and if V is not bounded above, then sup V = +infinity. Prove if V[tex]\subseteq[/tex]W[tex]\subseteq[/tex]Real Numbers then sup V is lessthan/equalto supW




3. I used a proof by contrapositive, but I'm not sure if it is completely valid...
 
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I am assuming that these are intevals. You know that the lemma is clear if V=W, don't you? So assume that
[tex]
V\subset W
[\tex]
So there is an element w in W which is not an element of V, examine |w-sup(V)|.
 
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No reason to assume these are intervals.

Yes, the contrapositive is the way to go. Suppose sup(W)> sup(V). Then there exist x such that sup(V)< x< sup(W). From that it follows that there exist a member of W larger than x and so larger than any member of V, a contradiction.
 

1. What is a supremum?

A supremum is the least upper bound of a set. In other words, it is the smallest number that is greater than or equal to all the numbers in the set.

2. How is a supremum different from a maximum?

A maximum is the largest number in a set, while a supremum may or may not be in the set. Additionally, a set may have multiple maximum values, but it can only have one supremum.

3. Can a set have a supremum if it is unbounded?

Yes, a set can have a supremum even if it is unbounded. The supremum may be infinity if the set contains infinitely large numbers.

4. How is the supremum of a set determined?

The supremum of a set is determined by finding the smallest number that is greater than or equal to all the numbers in the set. This can be done by graphing the set or using mathematical techniques such as the least upper bound property.

5. Is the supremum of a set always unique?

Yes, the supremum of a set is always unique. This is because it is defined as the least upper bound, meaning there can only be one smallest number that is greater than or equal to all the numbers in the set.

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