Surface Integral Homework: Compute Int Int S F•n dS

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The problem involves computing a surface integral over a portion of a paraboloid defined by the equation z=1+x^2+y^2, specifically above a rectangular region in the xy-plane. The vector field involved is given as F=.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the parametrization of the surface and the computation of the normal vector. There are questions about the bounds for integration and the projection of the paraboloid onto the xy-plane. Some participants express confusion regarding the resulting curve and its implications for the limits of integration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration based on the problem statement, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take for the integral itself.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the specified limits of integration for x and y, which are x between 0 and 1 and y between -1 and 0. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the projection of the paraboloid and the resulting bounds.

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Homework Statement


Let S be the part of the paraboloid [itex]z=1+x^2+y^2[/itex] lying above the rectangle
x between 0 and 1; y between -1 and 0 and oriented by the upward normal. Compute

[itex]\int\int_SF\cdot n\,dS[/itex] where F=<xz, xy, yz>


So I have Parametrized the surface S as r(x,y,z)=<x, y, 1+x2+y2>

Then I have found dr\dx cross dr/dy =f

then I found F(r(x,y)) dot f

Now I need to integrate this over the domain of E but I am having trouble finding my bounds for x and y?

I need to project the paraboloid downward onto x-y plane right? This gives a curve, oh wait, the curve is just the equation of the paraboloid with z=0 right?


So the curve is 1+x2+y2=0

why does that not sit well with me?
 
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Something is not right here. If my curve is 1+x2+y2=0

That means that x=sqrt[-1-x2] which is just stupid... wtf am I doing? :mad: 10 hours until the final and I'm effing up surface integrals:cry:

And did I compute the cross product wrong? Should it be dr/dy "cross" dr/dx instead?
 
I think I got it. If I project the paraboloid downwards, I get a circle of radius 1. So x=sqrt[1-y6] which is my UPPEr bound for x and y=sqrt[1-x6] which is my LOWER bound for y.

Yes?:biggrin:

Either way, the integral is retarded; F dot (dr/dy x dr/dx) is a huge mess. Converting to polar coordinates will help a little, but am I right to say that this is a long-a$$ integral?
 
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The problem says " lying above the rectangle
x between 0 and 1; y between -1 and 0" Those are your limits of integration.

You should have
[tex]\int_{x=0}^1\int_{y= -1}^0 (2x^2- 2x^4- 3x^2y^2+ 2xy^2+ y^2- y^4)dydx[/tex]
not all that hard, surely.
 

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