Survey: Scale IN Variance in Physics Education

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The discussion highlights concerns about the portrayal of scale in physics education, emphasizing that common depictions often misrepresent the vast differences in size and distance between objects, such as the Earth and the Moon. The author argues that while practical limitations exist, educators rarely attempt to incorporate accurate scale visualizations, which are crucial for understanding physical systems. Examples are provided, illustrating how the actual distances and sizes in the solar system and atomic structures are often incomprehensible when depicted inaccurately. The author expresses a desire for more educational resources that include these scale differences to enhance comprehension. Accurate representations of scale in physics education are essential for fostering a deeper understanding of the subject.
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Hello, I consider myself an up-and-comer theoretical physicist (although getting a bit of a late start), and there's something that continues to trouble me about the way physics is taught both professionally and popularly, and I want to survey how others feel about the issue.

The issue is the portrayal of scale. For example, we always see the moon right next to the Earth in almost every depiction. Perhaps even more famously are the depictions of the scales of electron orbitals and the relative sizes of particles. I know the short argument is that it is impractical to portray the actual scale variances in these depictions. Even so, rarely do educators ever even try to sidebar a visualization of these scale differences which I think have seminal importance in understanding these systems.

For example, I just recently came across this scale appropriate depiction of the earth-moon radius and the subsequent scale appropriate transmission of light.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Speed_of_light_from_Earth_to_Moon.gif

Before seeing this, I basically had to guess this. Is it so hard for educators to incorporate these types of desciptions into their presentations? Am I alone here?
 
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In many cases, the scales involved are so different that it is hard to draw everything to scale.

Just take our solar system as an example: In an image where you see all planetary orbits on a screen, even sun would be smaller than a pixel. And on a scale where the sun fills the screen, Earth (1/100) and moon (1/500) are like that: O .[/size] (with more distance in between) - but at a distance of ~150 screens from the sun.
 
In perspective, the electrons exist very far from the nucleus. If you were to draw in a textbook a nucleus the size of a golf ball, and show correct distance relationship between it and its electrons, your textbook would need to be 2.5 kilometers long!...that would make an expensive textbook!
 
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Thanks, it would be great to have more descriptions like those in the textbooks I've been reading.
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks
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