# "Switching Transistor" OFF Impedance

1. Oct 15, 2014

### sandy.bridge

Hey all,

When a Bipolar Junction Transistor is "OFF" (i.e., Vb = 0), what are typical Emitter-Collector impedances? We are using a switching BJT as a switch for a stepper motor, however, we have just realized that the impedance is rather low when the transistor is off (470 Ohms). I would have expected this to be much larger for a transistor that is built for switching.

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2. Oct 15, 2014

The datasheet should list some of this - however how are you switching it "off" - do you have a pull down resistor?

3. Oct 15, 2014

### sandy.bridge

We are sending it a signal from a microcontroller. Attached you will see a portion of the circuit. The problem is that when the bases are "low", or even floating, the circuit is drawing current.

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4. Oct 15, 2014

I would use a 1K (?) resistor between the Base of Q1 and Ground. When the uC is Low, it is probably more like "floating" and the Q1 becomes a Voltage divider - allowing some leakage current - This also seems to be reverse logic ( when the uC is Low(Q1 off) the Motor is ON because the Gate of M1 gets Pulled up ) - is this what you want?

5. Oct 15, 2014

### sandy.bridge

Wouldn't a positive signal at the input of Q1 cause a current to flow into the base and thus bias Q1 "ON"? This is merely a common-emitter amplifier, no?

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6. Oct 16, 2014

### davenn

yes and that turns M1 ( the FET) off

As windact said its kinda reverse logic

7. Oct 16, 2014

In a switching circuit - think of ideals -- perfect switch.. If Q1 is "on" - ideally - what is the V at M1s Gate ... and conversely - if Q1 is "off" -- ideally -- what is the V at G-M1?

Your number 2 diagram --- is not the same as your #1 diagram...redraw #2 - in the arrangement of #1 and then add the parts that are missing.

As a matter of design best practices - the MOSFET is VERY FAST - what happens if the motor is running ( current flowing) any you "try" to turn it OFF VERY FAST??

8. Oct 17, 2014

### skeptic2

Which particular NMOS transistor are you using?

9. Oct 17, 2014

### Staff: Mentor

You believe it has always behaved like this, or are you investigating now only because something has recently stopped working properly?

Or is this a new circuit that isn't yet working how you want it to? Certainly, an OFF transistor should present more than a few kΩ to low voltage DC.

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