Symmetries of graphs and roots of equations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the relationship between the symmetries of polynomial graphs and the roots of equations. Participants examine various types of symmetries, including translations, reflections, and rotations, and their implications for understanding polynomial roots.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the practical applications of graph symmetries in relation to polynomial roots, suggesting a lack of convincing examples beyond graphing.
  • Another participant proposes that symmetries can be expressed through transformations where a polynomial can be represented as a translation of an odd or even polynomial, leading to a bijection between certain roots.
  • A different participant introduces the concept of Euclidean transformations that maintain the graph's self-coincidence, prompting further inquiry into which transformations are applicable.
  • Further discussion highlights that reflections in vertical lines and 180-degree rotations around points on the x-axis are covered by the previous points, while questioning the completeness of these transformations.
  • One participant acknowledges the usefulness of the identified symmetries in finding additional roots of some polynomials, while clarifying that they do not intend to trivialize the importance of these symmetries.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the completeness of the identified symmetries and their applications, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the question of whether all relevant symmetries have been identified, and there may be assumptions regarding the types of polynomials being discussed that are not explicitly stated.

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Is there a good way to relate the symmetries of the graphs of polynomials to the roots of equations?

There's lots of material on the web about teaching students how to determine if the graph of a function has a symmetry of some sort, but, aside from the task of drawing the graph, I don't find any convincing application of the symmetries.
 
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What symmetries did you have in mind? The only one I can think of are where a polynomial function ##p:\mathbb R\to\mathbb R## can be written as ##p(x)=q(x-a)+b## for some real ##a,b## and ##q## an odd or even polynomial function, where an 'odd' ('even') polynomial is one whose terms all have odd (even) powers. Hence the graph is a translation in two dimensions of the graph of an odd or even function.

Then if ##q## is even, or if ##q## is odd and ##b=0##, there is a bijection ##\theta## from the set of roots ##\geq a## to the set of roots ##\leq a## such that ##\theta(r)=2a-r##.
 
andrewkirk said:
What symmetries did you have in mind?
To start with, Euclidean transformations that bring the graph into coincidence with itself.
 
For the graph of a polynomial, are there any of those that are not covered by the above, which covers
  • all reflections in vertical lines (the case where ##q## is even and the axis of reflection is ##x=a##); and
  • rotation by 180 degrees around a point on the ##x## axis (the case where ##q## is odd and the centre of rotation is the point ##(a,0)##)?
It seems to me that any other Euclidean transformation of the graph of a polynomial (rotation, other than by 180 degrees around a point on the ##x## axis; reflection in a non-vertical line; translation) would not leave the graph invariant, although I may be missing something.

But I didn't mean to trivialise these symmetries by my use of the word 'only' in post 2. These are enough to be quite useful in finding additional roots of some polynomials.
 

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