T_{0} - Space Equivalent Definition

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The discussion focuses on the definition of a T_{0}-space in topology, specifically the condition that for every point x in a space X, the derived set {x}' can be expressed as a union of closed sets. The participants explore the implications of this definition, particularly the relationship between limit points and the closure of singletons. They clarify that a T_{0}-space allows for the existence of an open set containing one point but not another, ensuring distinct points can be separated. A key question raised is whether the statement can be simplified to assert that {x}' is empty for all x in a T_{0}-space, leading to further analysis of limit points. The conversation emphasizes the nuances in understanding the separation axioms in topology.
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show that T_{0} - space iff the derived set of every singleton is a union of closed sets.
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T_{0} - space iff {x}^{'} is a union of closed sets.
Hello everyone,
Concerning the separation axioms in topology. Our topology professor introduced the equivalent definition for a topological space to be a ##T_{o}-space## as:
$$
(X,\tau)\ is\ a\ T_{o}-space\ iff\ \forall\ x\ \in X,\ \{x\}^{\prime}\ is\ a\ union\ of\ closed\ sets.
$$
The direction ##\implies## follows from the result ##\bar{\{x\}}\neq\bar{\{y\}}## for every distinct elements in ##T_{o}-space##: Let ##z\in \{x\}^{\prime}\implies z\neq x\implies x\notin\bar{\{z\}}##, since
$$
{z}\subseteq{x}^{\prime}\subseteq\bar{\{x\}}\implies \bar{\{z\}}\subseteq\bar{\{x\}}.
$$
Then
$$
\bar{\{z\}}=\bar{\{z\}}-\{x\}\subseteq\bar{\{x\}}-\{x\}=\{x\}^{\prime},
$$
thus ##z\in\bar{\{z\}}\subseteq\{x\}^{\prime}##, i.e., ##\{x\}^{\prime}## can be written as a union of closed sets. Unfortunately, the other direction is not that clear. Will appreciate any suggestions.
 
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Sorry for the really dumb question, but is there an example where we can't replace the statement with: ##(X, \tau)## is ##T_0## if and only if for all ##x \in X##, ##\lbrace x \rbrace'## is empty? (I know ##\emptyset## is closed but...)

Definition: ##(X,\tau)## is ##T_0## if for any distinct points ##x,y \in X##, we can find an open set ##U## such that ##x \in U## and ##y \notin U##.

So, if ##y\neq x## was a limit point of ##\lbrace x \rbrace##, then by definition of ##T_0##, there is an open set ##U##such that ##y \in U## and ##(U - \lbrace y \rbrace) \cap \lbrace x \rbrace = \emptyset##. And this shows ##y## is not a limit point of ##\lbrace x \rbrace##.

And for any open set ##U## containing ##x##, we have ##(U - \lbrace x \rbrace) \cap \lbrace x \rbrace = \emptyset##, which shows ##x## is not a limit point of ##\lbrace x \rbrace##.

So ##\lbrace x \rbrace## has no limit points i.e., ##\lbrace x \rbrace'= \emptyset## ?
 
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Sorry for the really dumb question, but is there an example where we can't replace the statement with: ##(X, \tau)## is ##T_0## if and only if for all ##x \in X##, ##\lbrace x \rbrace'## is empty? (I know ##\emptyset## is closed but...)

Definition: ##(X,\tau)## is ##T_0## if for any distinct points ##x,y \in X##, we can find an open set ##U## such that ##x \in U## and ##y \notin U##.

So, if ##y\neq x## was a limit point of ##\lbrace x \rbrace##, then by definition of ##T_0##, there is an open set ##U##such that ##y \in U## and ##(U - \lbrace y \rbrace) \cap \lbrace x \rbrace = \emptyset##. And this shows ##y## is not a limit point of ##\lbrace x \rbrace##.

And for any open set ##U## containing ##x##, we have ##(U - \lbrace x \rbrace) \cap \lbrace x \rbrace = \emptyset##, which shows ##x## is not a limit point of ##\lbrace x \rbrace##.

So ##\lbrace x \rbrace## has no limit points i.e., ##\lbrace x \rbrace'= \emptyset## ?
I think I got the definition wrong. It should be (i think)

##(X,\tau)## is ##T_0## if for any distinct points ##x,y \in X##, we can find an open set ##U## such that ##x \in U## and ##y \notin U## or ##x \notin U## and ##y \in U##.

So in post #2, we can't guarantee there is an open set containing ##y## and not containing ##x##, which I assumed was possible... sorry. For the problem in OP, I think we can break it into cases:

Proof: ##(\Longleftarrow):## Let ##x, y## be distinct points in ##X## and consider two cases.

Case 1: ##x \in \lbrace y \rbrace'##. Then ##x \in C## for some closed set ##C \subset \lbrace y \rbrace'##. Since ##y## is not a limit point of ##\lbrace y \rbrace## (because ##(X - \lbrace y \rbrace) \cap \lbrace y \rbrace = \emptyset)##, we have that ##y \notin C##. So, ##y \in X - C## and ##x \notin X - C## where ##X - C## is open.

Case 2: ##x \notin \lbrace y \rbrace'##. Here we show ##x \notin \overline{\lbrace y \rbrace}## and then use a similar argument as in case 1.
 
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