Tangential Component of Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around finding the tangential component of the acceleration vector for a given motion vector defined by r(t)=⟨e^{-t},√2t,e^t⟩. Participants are examining the correct approach to calculate this component, referencing calculus concepts related to velocity and acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss different methods for calculating the tangential component of acceleration, including the original poster's approach and an alternative method involving the unit tangent vector. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the initial calculations and the validity of the methods used.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations. Some express uncertainty about their methods, while others acknowledge mistakes in their previous calculations. There is no clear consensus on the best approach, but various interpretations are being explored.

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Participants note potential errors in calculations and the impact of these errors on the final results. There is also mention of simplifying expressions using hyperbolic functions, indicating a focus on mathematical elegance.

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Homework Statement


I was following through the notes I took in my Calc class, and either I wrote down the formulas incorrectly, my professor did this problem incorrectly, or I wrote the answer down incorrectly. I'm just going to redo it here, so could someone give me a thumbs up or thumbs down if I did it correctly? Thanks.

Problem:

Find the tangential component of the acceleration vector of the given partial motion vector:

r(t)=\langle e^{-t},\sqrt{2}t,e^t\rangle


Homework Equations



a_T=\frac{d}{dt}|v|

The Attempt at a Solution



v(t)=\frac{dr(t)}{dt}=\langle -e^{-t},\sqrt{2},e^t \rangle

|v|=\sqrt{e^{-2t}+2+e^{2t}}
|v|=\sqrt{(e^{-t}+e^t)^2}
|v|=e^{-t}+e^t


a_T=\frac{d}{dt}|v|=-e^{-t}+e^t
 
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No, that is not how you calculate it. You need to calculate the unit tangent vector T which you get by dividing the velocity vector by its length. Then you get the acceleration vector A by differentiating your velocity vector. Then you get the tangential component of the acceleration by calculating

A_T = \vec A\cdot T
 
Okay then I'll do it that way:


(from before)
v(t)=\langle -e^{-t},\sqrt{2},e^t \rangle
|v|=e^{-t}+e^t

(new)
T(t)=\frac{v(t)}{|v|}=\langle \frac{-e^{-t}}{e^{-t}+e^t}, \frac{\sqrt{2}}{e^{-t}+e^t}, \frac{e^t}{e^{-t}+e^t}\rangle

a(t)=\frac{d}{dt}v(t)=\langle e^{-t},0,e^t \rangle

a_T=a(t) \centerdot T(t) = e^{-t}\frac{-e^{-t}}{e^{-t}+e^t} + 0 + e^t\frac{e^t}{e^{-t}+e^t}=\frac{e^{-2t}-e^{2t}}{e^{-t}+e^t}=\frac{(e^{t}-e^{-t})(e^{t}+e^{-t})}{e^{-t}+e^t}=-e^{-t}+e^t

So apparently I CAN do it the original way...and it was a bit easier too. So am I safe to assume I have done it correctly?
 
scoobiedoober said:
So apparently I CAN do it the original way...and it was a bit easier too. So am I safe to assume I have done it correctly?

Yes, I made a mistake in my calculation and had a different answer, sorry for the misstep.
 
LCKurtz said:
Yes, I made a mistake in my calculation and had a different answer, sorry for the misstep.

No worries, even my professor with a PHD flubbed it up! Thank the lord for technology :p
 
One note: e^(t) - e^(-t) = sinh(t), if you want to make your answer look more elegant.
 
Char. Limit said:
One note: e^(t) - e^(-t) = sinh(t), if you want to make your answer look more elegant.

You mean = 2 sinh(t).
 
LCKurtz said:
You mean = 2 sinh(t).

Ooops :redface: Of course. 2 sinh(t).
 

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