Tau Decay: More Pions, Less Ratio?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the branching ratios of tau decay processes, specifically comparing the decay modes involving different combinations of pions and neutrinos. Participants explore the implications of phase space and the interactions involved in these decays, focusing on the role of vector and scalar mesons.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the branching ratio for tau decay to a charged pion, neutral pion, and tau neutrino is larger than that for decay to a charged pion and tau neutrino, questioning why this occurs despite expectations based on phase space considerations.
  • Another participant explains that the decay process involves a rho meson, suggesting that the virtual W boson couples more strongly to the rho than to the pion, although they acknowledge the complexity of the underlying reasons.
  • A follow-up question asks whether the difference in coupling strength is related to the vector nature of the rho meson compared to the scalar nature of the pion, while also referencing the vector nature of the W boson.
  • Further contributions emphasize the complexity of semi-leptonic decays involving hadrons and the strong interaction, mentioning the use of chiral symmetry in QCD and effective hadronic models as important theoretical tools.
  • One participant references a review paper that discusses tau physics and the role of vector and axial-vector currents in these decay processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the explanations for the branching ratios and the underlying physics, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the factors influencing tau decay.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the decay processes, the complexity of the interactions involved, and the lack of a straightforward explanation for the observed branching ratios.

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Hello! Tau decay has a branching ratio to a charged pion + neutral pion + tau neutrino much bigger than to a charged pion and a tau neutrino. Based on consideration of available phase space, I would imagine that adding an extra pion would decrease the branching ratio. Why is this happening? Thank you!
 
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The decay is actually \tau \rightarrow \rho \nu followed by \rho^\pm \rightarrow \pi^\pm \pi^0. The reason is that the virtual W couples more strongly to the rho than the pion, but I don't think there is an I-level explanation for why. There's not even a single simple A-level explanation: it's multiple factors.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
The decay is actually \tau \rightarrow \rho \nu followed by \rho^\pm \rightarrow \pi^\pm \pi^0. The reason is that the virtual W couples more strongly to the rho than the pion, but I don't think there is an I-level explanation for why. There's not even a single simple A-level explanation: it's multiple factors.
Thanks a lot! So the W boson decays into an up/down pair, but for some reason that pair has a higher probability to form a rho meson than a pion? Iso ne of the reason related to the fact that the rho is a vector while the pion is a scalar, while W is a vector?
 
BillKet said:
Iso ne of the reason related to the fact that the rho is a vector while the pion is a scalar, while W is a vector?

It's not that simple. I don't think there is an I-level explanation for why. There's not even a single simple A-level explanation: it's multiple factors.
 
While the purely leptonic decays are quite easy to understand by just using perturbation theory to the electroweak standard model, QFD, the semi-leptonic decays involving hadrons and the strong interaction, is not so easy to understand from simple analytic principles. An important theoretical tool is to use the approximate chiral symmetry of QCD in the light-quark sector to derive effective hadronic models. Finally there are also some phenomenological models. In connection with the electromagnetic (and maybe also for the weak) interaction of hadrons, particularly pions, the socalled vector-meson-dominance model is quite successful. If I remember right, for the decay via vector and axial-vector currents you need both, direct decays as well as decays vial ##\rho## and ##a_1## mesons. Above, I've quoted a review paper which seems to me pretty up to date concerning ##\tau## physics.
 

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