Temperature fluctuations in helium

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The discussion centers on an experiment involving second sound in superfluid helium, where a heater generates sound by passing an AC current through the fluid. The focus is on measuring the 'normal fluid fraction,' which refers to the non-superfluid component in the two fluids model. A notable point raised is the observation that the sound should propagate at twice the frequency of the AC current, which is linked to the relationship between voltage and current in-phase conditions. Participants express excitement about the experiment, particularly regarding the use of liquid nitrogen and safety considerations. Overall, the conversation highlights key aspects of the experiment and the underlying physics involved.
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I'm about to do an experiment on second sound in superfluid helium. Reading the lab manual it says we will generate it by putting a heater into the fluid and then passed an AC current through it. What we are going to measure is apparently the 'normal fluid fraction', which I guess under the two fluids model is the non-superfluid part. Weird thing: there's a casual mention that it should propagate away at twice the frequency of our current! Why would that happen?? I was trying to find some equations that would describe this behaviour but I can't, or at least those on the internet are way beyond me.

Thanks for any help! :)
 
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See the PF Insights article, AC Power Analysis: Part 1, Basics

From the article, V(t)*I(t) is the instantaneous power. When V and I are in-phase, V*I is double the fundamental frequency.

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Your experiment sounds like fun.
 
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anorlunda said:
See the PF Insights article, AC Power Analysis: Part 1, Basics

From the article, V(t)*I(t) is the instantaneous power. When V and I are in-phase, V*I is double the fundamental frequency.

in-phase.jpg


Your experiment sounds like fun.
I see, thank you! Yeah, it'll be a good experiment I think. In particular looking forward to using lots of liquid nitrogen, the safety briefing was just packed with interesting ways to go wrong!
 
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