Temperature of ideal gas in a cylinder

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of an ideal gas in a cylinder when subjected to changes in volume through piston movement. Participants explore the implications of rapid versus slow compression on temperature and heat exchange, referencing the first law of thermodynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the effects of sudden versus slow piston movement on gas temperature, questioning the role of heat exchange during compression. Some examine the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature, while others seek clarification on the assumptions made regarding heat transfer.

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The conversation is active, with participants offering insights into the implications of different compression rates on temperature changes. There is an exploration of whether the system returns to its original temperature after a sudden compression, with some guidance provided on the concept of thermal equilibrium.

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Participants are considering the conditions under which the gas is compressed, including the speed of piston movement and the potential for heat transfer during the process. There is an emphasis on the assumptions related to heat exchange and the initial conditions of the system.

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Why is option A and C wrong or correct?

My attempted answer :
A :A is plausible as if the piston is suddenly moved inwards, the gas molecules bounce off the piston at higher speeds
Since Temp proportional to rms speed, temp increases
Or
based on 1st law of thermodynamics
The piston suddenly moved in... So means Q=0 cos no time for heat transfer.
Since compression, W is +ve so U is +ve. That implies T increases.

C : as P increases, V decreases

Please help to correct my understanding! !
Thanks a million! !
 
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"Suddenly moves inwards" in the question implies that there was little or no heat exchange during this compression process. With this information, apply the First Law and try and deduce for yourself whether A or C is the correct answer.
 
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What if the piston is slowly moved inwards? How will the answer change?
 
Boomzxc said:
What if the piston is slowly moved inwards? How will the answer change?

If the piston is moved slowly enough, the temperature will not change. Can you rationalize why?
 
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JeremyG said:
If the piston is moved slowly enough, the temperature will not change. Can you rationalize why?
Is it because there's time for heat distribution throughout the gas??
 
Boomzxc said:
Is it because there's time for heat distribution throughout the gas??

There's sufficient time during the process for heat to enter or leave the system.
 
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JeremyG said:
There's sufficient time during the process for heat to enter or leave the system.
If the piston is suddenly moved inwards and the temp increased, and i leave the system there for some time, will the system return to it's prior temperature (room temp) assuming this is carried out at room temp?
 
Boomzxc said:
If the piston is suddenly moved inwards and the temp increased, and i leave the system there for some time, will the system return to it's prior temperature (room temp) assuming this is carried out at room temp?

Yes, heat will flow from higher temperature region to lower temperature region. It would be more precise to say that the system and its surroundings reach an equilibrium temperature, which may or may not be the original room temperature. (before the compression)
 
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