Temperature/Pressure conversion for NH3

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In summary, the conversation discusses a conversion equation for a refrigeration system and the struggle to find the inverse of the equation. The formula for converting temperature to pressure is provided, but there is a deviation of 150 degrees at the high end of the scale. The possibility of multiple temperatures for each pressure value is also mentioned. The conversation then goes on
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I am working on a conversion equation to put into the PLC that is running our refrigeration system. I have found the equation to convert temp to pressure, but i am struggling on finding the inverse of this equation. Any advice on a formula or method would be greatly appreciated.
y = .000044x3 + 0.0065x2 + 0.730x + 15.7
 
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I am put a chart into excel but the new equation for pressure to temperature is not working correctly when I plug the original points back into it. It has a deviation of 150 degrees at the high end of the scale. Am I correct in assuming that the inverse of temp to pressure equation would give me the pressure to temp equation?
 
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How did you find the inverse equation? Your temperature to pressure formula is a general cubic equation, and while it's possible to find x in terms of y via the cubic equation, it would be too long and tedious; moreover, you have to deal with the possibility that sometimes there may be more than one temperature for each pressure value (at least given by your equation). If your given formula was interpolated in the first place, you may as well just interpolate again in the reverse.
 
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Yeah that is why I have tried it in excel in the same fashion I achieved the original equation. I was having difficulty with it and the deviation of the new equation was massive. so i tried multiple little additions to the equation. I found that my scientific notation was not precise enough so I increased my decimal places and developed an equation that has a max deviation of 2.5 degrees. It was a user problem. Thank you for the help. This will go from pressure to temperature...

y = -6.68E-08x4 + 4.60E-05x3 - 1.19E-02x2 + 1.70E+00x - 2.51E+01
 
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If you don't mind sharing your formula "y = -6.68E-08x4 + 4.60E-05x3 - 1.19E-02x2 + 1.70E+00x - 2.51E+01" what units are the variables y and x ?.

y is pressure in ?
x is temperature in ?

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See what the max deviation is on this

x= -49.242424242424235 - 0.516472181892512/(5.090996*10^-7 + 5.2272*10^-8*y + 5.2272*10^-8*sqrt(326.78516758494044 + 19.478864401591675*y + y^2))^(1/3) + 6012.882772606816*(5.090996*10^-7 + 5.2272*10^-8*y + 5.2272*10^-8*sqrt(326.78516758494044 + 19.478864401591675*y + y^2))^(1/3)
 

FAQ: Temperature/Pressure conversion for NH3

1. What is the relationship between temperature and pressure for NH3?

The relationship between temperature and pressure for NH3 (ammonia) is described by the ideal gas law, which states that the pressure and volume of a gas are inversely proportional to each other at constant temperature. This means that as the temperature of NH3 increases, its pressure will also increase if the volume remains constant.

2. How can I convert temperature from Celsius to Kelvin for NH3?

To convert temperature from Celsius to Kelvin, simply add 273.15 to the temperature in degrees Celsius. For example, if the temperature of NH3 is 25 degrees Celsius, the conversion to Kelvin would be: 25 + 273.15 = 298.15 K.

3. What is the boiling point of NH3 at standard pressure?

The boiling point of NH3 at standard pressure (1 atmosphere or 101.325 kPa) is -33.34 degrees Celsius or 239.81 Kelvin. This means that at this pressure, NH3 will transition from a liquid to a gas state.

4. How do I convert pressure from kilopascals (kPa) to atmospheres (atm) for NH3?

To convert pressure from kilopascals to atmospheres for NH3, simply divide the pressure in kPa by 101.325, which is equivalent to 1 atm. For example, if the pressure of NH3 is 200 kPa, the conversion to atm would be: 200 kPa / 101.325 = 1.97 atm.

5. What is the molar mass of NH3 and how does it affect temperature and pressure conversion?

The molar mass of NH3 (ammonia) is 17.03 g/mol. This value is important in temperature and pressure conversions because it is used in the ideal gas law to calculate the number of moles of NH3 present. This, in turn, affects the pressure and temperature of the gas according to the ideal gas law equation PV = nRT, where P is pressure, V is volume, n is the number of moles, R is the gas constant, and T is temperature. Therefore, the molar mass of NH3 is a crucial factor in accurate temperature and pressure conversions.

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