Temporal overlap of light beams

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The discussion revolves around the temporal overlap of two light beams with different wavelengths, specifically one at 800 nm (visible) and the other at 3450 nm (infrared). Participants explore the conditions necessary for these beams to arrive at the same spatial location and time, particularly in the context of high-powered lasers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to achieve temporal overlap of light beams with different frequencies, suggesting that one beam may need to be delayed.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the concept of temporal overlap and notes that light does not typically interact at realistic intensities, but acknowledges that it can in high-power laser scenarios.
  • A clarification is provided that the participant is indeed using high-powered lasers and needs both beams to overlap spatially and temporally at the same target.
  • A later reply suggests that if the lasers are pulsed, the main concern is the dispersion of the medium, as the refractive index varies with wavelength, affecting the speed of light in the medium.
  • It is mentioned that for short distances in air, the difference in arrival times due to dispersion will be minimal, and the challenge may lie more in accurately triggering the lasers.
  • One participant notes that significant interactions between laser beams occur only at extremely high power levels, where quantum effects become relevant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concept of temporal overlap, with some uncertainty about the implications of using high-powered lasers. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best approach to achieve the desired overlap.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the influence of the medium's refractive index on the speed of light at different wavelengths, indicating that assumptions about the medium's properties are important for the discussion. The conversation also highlights the potential for interaction between light beams at very high power levels, which may not be applicable in all scenarios.

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Let's assume I can generate two individual light beams, one centered at a wavelength of 800nm (visible) and the other at 3450 nm (infrared).

Obviously the visible light has a higher frequency than the infrared light. Since all EM waves travel at the speed of light, how can one achieve temporal overlap of two different light frequencies?

I'm thinking that one must delay one of the light beams, but I'm uncertain of the correct equations to use to show this.


Thanks in advance.
 
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Not sure what you mean by temporal overlap?
At realistic intensities light doesn't interact with light (it can in very high power lasers).
 
mgb_phys said:
Not sure what you mean by temporal overlap?
At realistic intensities light doesn't interact with light (it can in very high power lasers).
That's exactly what I'm using: high powered lasers. Sorry, let me clarify my setup:

I have two laser beams that need to be spatially and temporally overlapped, i.e. they need to be overlapped in space and time.

In other words, both laser beams need to hit the sample in the same spot and at the same exact time.
 
Sorry was overcomplicating things because you posted in the quantum forum!

If these are pulsed lasers and you just need the pulse to arrive at the target at the same time then you only have to worry about the dispersion of the medium. That is the refractive index of the material will be slightly different at the two wavelengths and so the speed will be different.
This site will calculate it http://www.luxpop.com/

For air at the two wavelengths you said, for a short lab bench distance the differenc is going to be very small, you will probabaly have more difficulty triggering the lasers that accurately.

The high power laser thing applies to VERY high power (giga-terra Watt) pulses where quantum effects begin to matter, here laser beams passing through each other can interact.
 
I understand now.

thanks
 

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