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So I use M1 + M2 = 6.9 +3.1 = 10 kgBrian T said:Use the mass of the whole system to find the acceleration of the whole system
The problem involves two masses on a frictionless surface connected by a string, with a force applied at an angle to one of the masses. The objective is to calculate the tension in the string connecting the two masses.
Participants are exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and how they relate to the acceleration of the system. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relevance of certain forces and the need to consider only horizontal components in the absence of friction. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correct approach to determining the tension in the string.
There is some confusion regarding the application of the force vector and its components, as well as the correct value to use for the net force in calculations. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the problem's constraints, such as the frictionless surface and the angle of the applied force.
So I use M1 + M2 = 6.9 +3.1 = 10 kgBrian T said:Use the mass of the whole system to find the acceleration of the whole system
F=maBrian T said:Yes, so a =?
F=maBrian T said:So, you have the acceleration of the system. Now, look at block m1. What is the force needed to accelerate it at 4.10995?
Tension is acting on that block.Brian T said:Good. Now, what force(s) is/are acting on that block?
Is that the acceleration for the system then?Brian T said:So, you know the force necessary to accelerate the block (~28) and you know there is only one force acting on the block, so...
So I have my answer?Brian T said:You know the force needed to accelerate the block, and tension is the only force pulling it, therefore, the tension is equal to the force needed to accelerate it (~28 N)
Okay. Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate you taking the time to help me!Brian T said:Yes. Another way to reach the answer is by looking at M2:
We know that, since M2 is 3.9 kg, it should have a net force acting on it of:
F2net = ma
F2net = (3.9 kg)(4.10995 m/s^2)
F2net = 16.029 N.
Now the net force on block 2 should equal to the sum of the forces. The two forces are tension (left) and the pull (right). We have:
F2net = Fpull + T
F2net we just calculated is 16.029 N.
Fpull you previously calculated was 41.0995 N. Plugging it in:
16.029 N = 41.0995 N + T
Solve and get T ~ -28 (negative indicating left directed force. There is also an equal tension pulling to the right on block 1, which is the force you calculated).
No problem, glad I could help. Let me know if you have any more questions about that. :Dlitz057 said:Okay. Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate you taking the time to help me!
I will! Thanks again!Brian T said:No problem, glad I could help. Let me know if you have any more questions about that. :D