Tension in Rope for Box at Rest: 0N

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The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on a box hanging from a rope, specifically focusing on the tension in the rope under various conditions of motion. The subject area includes dynamics and Newton's laws of motion.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension and weight when the box is at rest, questioning the implications of zero acceleration. There is an exploration of how to apply Newton's second law to different scenarios, including steady motion and acceleration.

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The discussion has progressed through various parts of the problem, with participants providing guidance on the application of forces and equations. Some participants have successfully calculated the tension for different scenarios, while others continue to seek clarification on specific aspects of the problem.

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A 61.0kg box hangs from a rope. What is the tension in the rope if:

(a) The box is at rest?
(b) The box moves up a steady 5.10m/s?
(c) The box has v_y = 5.10m/s and is speeding up at 5.10m/s^2? The y-axis points upward.
(d) The box has v_y = 5.10m/s and is slowing down at 5.10m/s^2?

This problem seems easy, but because I cannot even get part (a) I am confused and need help.

To me it seems like part (a) should be either 0N or 61N.
F=ma
F=61kg(0m/s^2) ---> box at rest means acceleration is zero right?
F=0N
 
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Analyze the forces acting on the box (there are two) and apply Newton's 2nd law (Fnet=ma). You're right that "ma" = 0, but that means that the net force is zero.
 
I am still a little confused.
The two forces are Tension and Weight, which if the Acceleration is zero, doesn't this mean that the force of the tension and weight are the same.
 
Gravity...

So it would be 61kg times 9.8m/s^2 = 597.8N for part (a)
 
How do I tackle part (b)?
 
TonkaQD4 said:
I am still a little confused.
The two forces are Tension and Weight, which if the Acceleration is zero, doesn't this mean that the force of the tension and weight are the same.
Exactly. The force equation is: T - mg = ma = 0; so T = mg.

TonkaQD4 said:
How do I tackle part (b)?
Using the same method. What's the acceleration in this case?
 
5.10 ?
 
TonkaQD4 said:
5.10 ?
No. 5.10 m/s is the speed, which is steady. (Note that acceleration has units of m/s^2, not m/s.)

So, what's the acceleration of something moving upward at a steady speed?
 
Zero
 
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TonkaQD4 said:
Zero
Yep. Next!
 
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Ok so it 598N again.

Now part (c)...
It is accelerating at 5.10m/s^2

T-mg=ma

ma= 61(5.1) = 311N
mg= 598N

T= ma+mg= 311N+598N = 909N
 
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Part (d) would then be 598N - 311N = 287N

Thanks for your help!
 
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Perfect! (for b, c, & d!)
 

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