Tension of String/ Mass question

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The discussion centers on calculating the mass hanging from a steel wire given its tension and wave pulse properties. The initial attempt calculated the tension using the wave speed and mass per unit length, resulting in an incorrect mass of 13.66 kg instead of the expected 17.8 kg. The error stemmed from not properly converting the wire's mass from grams to kilograms and misunderstanding the tension components. By applying Lami's theorem, the correct relationship between tension and mass can be established, leading to the accurate mass calculation. The final mass determined using the corrected approach is 17.8 kg.
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Homework Statement


The figure shows two masses hanging from a steel wire. The mass of the wire is 60.0 g. A wave pulse travels along the wire from point 1 to point 2 in 24.0 ms.

What is mass m?
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Homework Equations


v = sqrt(Ts/mu)

The Attempt at a Solution


T=mu*v^2

t = 0.024s
d = 4m
v = d/t = 166.666m/s

mu = m/L = 60g/8m = 7.5

T = 208331Nsin40 = mg
m = 208331Nsin40/g
m = 13.66

but the answer is 17.8kg. where did i go wrong?
 
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the tension that you get from

T=mu*v^2

(I get 209 N - it is 60 grams) is the x-component of the tension in the inclined part of the wire.
 
Convert 60 g to kg and try again.
 
By using Lami's theorem You can find tension across point 1 and 2.
T/cos40 = mg/sin40. Hence T = mg*cot40.
m = (7.5^-3*166.67^2)/9.8*cot40
= 17.8kg.
 
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