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Hi

I am reading about some fluid mechanics, when suddenly I read saw that someone took the derivate of a tensor. It is in this thesis, on page 26 eq. (70). It is the final equality I can't understand.

So the author is taking the derivate [itex]\partial_{x_{\alpha}} P_{\alpha\beta}[/itex] of the momentum flux tensor. How on Earth does this end up giving [itex] \rho u_{\alpha}\partial_{x_\alpha}u_{\beta} + \partial_{x_\alpha}p[/itex]?


Thanks in advance for hints/help.
 
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Shyan said:
You give us the definition of [itex]P_{\alpha\beta}[/itex] and we will answer your question! Deal?

Sorry, here it is:

[tex] P_{\alpha\beta} = p\delta_{\alpha\beta} + (u_1^2, u_1u_2; u_2u_1, u_2^2)[/tex]

Here p is a constant and and u a vector.

Deal! :redface:
 
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Your tensor can also be written as [itex]P_{\alpha\beta}=p \delta_{\alpha\beta}+u_{\alpha}u_{\beta}[/itex].

Let [itex]\partial_{\alpha}=\partial_{x_{\alpha}}[/itex].

Then we have [itex]\partial_{\alpha}P_{\alpha\beta}=\partial_{\alpha} p \delta_{\alpha\beta}+u_{\beta}\partial_{\alpha}u_{\alpha}+ u_{\alpha} \partial_{\alpha} u_{\beta}[/itex]

This is all that can be said without adding other assumptions.Only that [itex]\partial_{\alpha} p \delta_{\alpha\beta}=0[/itex] because p is a constant!

So,you should see whether there are other assumptions too or not.For example [itex]\partial_{\alpha}u_{\alpha}[/itex] is the divergence of the vector u.It may be zero so we will have [itex]\partial_{\alpha}P_{\alpha\beta}=u_{\alpha} \partial_{\alpha} u_{\beta}(+ \partial_{\alpha} p \delta_{\alpha\beta}=0)[/itex] which is near to what you want.But I don't know where that [itex]\rho[/itex] comes from.Can you give the definition of u and also other equations involving them?
 
I'll check it out, but it seems [itex]p\propto \rho[/itex] (from the thesis). It doesn't say anything about the gradient of u though.

Due to Einstein summation [itex]\partial_{\alpha}u_\alpha[/itex] is the gradient of u, but what is [itex]u_{\alpha\partial_\alpha u\beta}[/itex]?