Is there a classification for tensors that are invariant under isometries?

In summary, Weinberg states that the only combination of second order derivative of metric which transforms tensorially is Riemann tensor (and its traces).
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paweld
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Is it true that the only combination of second order derivative of metric which
transforms tensorially is Riemann tensor (and its traces)?
 
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paweld said:
Is it true that the only combination of second order derivative of metric which
transforms tensorially is Riemann tensor (and its traces)?

Yes.

AB
 
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Thanks for answer.
Do you know any proof of it.
 
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paweld said:
Thanks for answer.
Do you know any proof of it.

Actually this is based on the fact that until today there we have only Riemann tensor created from the combination of the first and second order derivatives of metric tensor and the metric tensor itself. But for an informal proof, see

GRAVITATION AND COSMOLOGY: PRINCIPLES AND APPLICATIONS OF THE GNERAL RELATIVITY by S. Weinberg. John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 1972, pp 133-34.

AB
 
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Altabeh said:
Actually this is based on the fact that until today there we have only Riemann tensor created from the combination of the first and second order derivatives of metric tensor and the metric tensor itself.

How about the Einstein tensor?
 
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It's lieanr combination of traces of Riemann tensor.
 
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paweld said:
It's lieanr combination of traces of Riemann tensor.

Of course!

AB
 
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paweld said:
It's lieanr combination of traces of Riemann tensor.

Altabeh said:
Of course!

AB

Thanks guys!
 
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I followed Altabeh's suggestion to look at Weinberg, and there he states uniqueness with all the conditions previously mentioned in this thread, plus the requirement that it be linear in second derivatives.

There is an interesting comment in Berger's http://books.google.com/books?id=d_...&resnum=3&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false "A important remark is in order: many people think that the curvature and its derivatives are the only Riemannian invariants. This is true and classical when looking for algebraic invariants which stem from the connection, see page 165 of Schouten 1954 [1109] and the references there. But things are dramatically different if one asks only for tensors which are invariant under isometries (called natural ). Then there is no hope to get any kind of classification, as explained in Epstein 1975 [491]. For more see Munoz & Valdes 1996 [952]."
 

Related to Is there a classification for tensors that are invariant under isometries?

1. What are tensors and how do they create form metric?

Tensors are mathematical objects used to describe the relationship between different quantities in a system. They have multiple components that correspond to different directions or dimensions in the system. When tensors are applied to create a metric, they help quantify the distance between points in space and define the curvature of the space.

2. Why are tensors important in creating form metric?

Tensors are important in creating form metric because they allow us to measure the curvature and shape of space. This is crucial in understanding how objects move and interact in the universe, as well as in developing theories of gravity and spacetime.

3. How do tensors differ from other mathematical objects?

Tensors differ from other mathematical objects in that they have multiple components that correspond to different directions or dimensions in a system. This allows them to describe complex relationships and properties that cannot be captured by simpler mathematical objects.

4. Can tensors be applied to other fields besides physics?

Yes, tensors can be applied to other fields besides physics. They are commonly used in engineering, computer science, and data analysis to model and analyze complex systems and relationships.

5. Are there different types of tensors used in creating form metric?

Yes, there are different types of tensors used in creating form metric. The most commonly used are covariant tensors, contravariant tensors, and mixed tensors. Each type has its own properties and is used for different purposes in creating the metric.

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