Testing System Linearity and Shift Invariance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the linearity and shift invariance of a system defined by two equations involving functions g and f. Participants seek clarification on the definitions and relationships between these functions, as well as the steps necessary to assess the properties of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to check the linearity and shift invariance of the system, providing two equations involving g and f.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the variables used, particularly the role of n in the first equation and the connection between the two forms of g.
  • A third participant notes that the variable n does not appear in the second equation and questions the clarity of the system being described.
  • Some participants suggest that the assessment of linearity and shift invariance for g depends on the properties of f, which remains undefined in the discussion.
  • There is a reiteration of the need to understand both g and f to evaluate the system's properties effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the lack of clarity regarding the definitions and relationships of g and f hinders the ability to assess the system's properties. Multiple competing views remain regarding how to approach the problem and the necessary information required.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights missing definitions and assumptions about the functions involved, as well as the need for more information about f to draw conclusions about g.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in system theory, particularly those studying linearity and shift invariance in mathematical or engineering contexts.

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please anyone can help me

how make check the linearity and shift invarient for the system

I want to determine whether the system is linear and shift invarientby steps

g(m,n) = f(m,-1) + f(m,0) + f(m,1)

g(x) = (integration from +infinety to - infinety) f(x,z) dz

please help me
Thanks a lot
 
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Your questions are very unclear!
In first equation, what is n?
What is the "system"?
You use g for functions in both equations, one with two arguments (integers?) and the other with one (real?). Is there any connection between them?
 


first m,n is variables but the variable n not appear as a term at the other side from the first equation
Second this equation not describe a special system

please anyone help me
 


howwwwwwwwwwwwwwww?
anybody here?
 


hanafnaf said:
how make check the linearity and shift invarient for the system

I want to determine whether the system is linear and shift invarientby steps

g(m,n) = f(m,-1) + f(m,0) + f(m,1)

g(x) = (integration from +infinety to - infinety) f(x,z) dz

please help me
Thanks a lot
Are these then two different questions? In both of them whether g is linear and/or "shift invarient" depends upon whether f is or is not. Since you haven't told us what f is, we can't answer. If the question was whether g is linear no matter what f is, the answer is "no".
 


we need check the system overall g and f, both is unknown
 

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