Textbooks on symmetries and physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for textbooks that explain physics through the lens of symmetries. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various texts, focusing on both introductory and advanced materials related to the topic of symmetries in physics.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a newfound interest in symmetries after an introductory electromagnetism course and seeks recommendations for textbooks that start from basic concepts.
  • Another participant recommends "Physics from Symmetry" by J. Schwichtenberg as a starting point.
  • A different participant suggests exploring group theory applications in physics, mentioning "Group Theory in Particle, Nuclear, and Hadron Physics" by Syed Afsar Abbas and quantum mechanics textbooks by David Bohm and Leonard Schiff, which include discussions on symmetries.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of "Physics from Symmetry," with one participant labeling it as a bad book and referencing errors in Gerald Folland's works.
  • Another participant acknowledges the existence of errata in Folland's books but still values "Quantum Field Theory: A Tourist Guide for Mathematicians" as a significant resource.
  • Kurt Sundermeyer's "Symmetries in Fundamental Physics" is recommended as a valuable but advanced text for those with a graduate-level understanding of physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the quality of certain textbooks, particularly regarding Schwichtenberg's and Folland's works. There is no consensus on which books are definitively the best for learning about symmetries in physics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the presence of errata in certain recommended texts, which may affect their usability. Additionally, the varying levels of complexity in the suggested books indicate a range of prerequisites for understanding the material.

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Readers interested in the intersection of symmetries and physics, particularly those seeking textbooks for both introductory and advanced studies in this area.

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I just started to develop an interest in symmetries after taking an introductory course in electromagnetism . The instructor explained to us how physical laws can be obtained by considering the symmetries of the physical system. It was really amazing how we can obtain such information just by considering the underlying symmetries
if it's possible, could you recommend some textbooks that explain physics in terms of symmetries ?
it would be really great if the textbooks start from the beginning as i want to re-study what i have done based on symmetries and then i want to cover the more advanced materials after that.
 
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You may want to consider looking into a textbook that intends to teach applications of group theory in physics. There are several books for that, e.g., Group Theory in Particle, Nuclear, and Hadron Physics by Syed Afsar Abbas, CRC Press offers a relatively gentle but short introduction and discusses some very advanced applications of group theory.

If you are not prepared to read the whole book, you can look into the quantum mechanics textbooks by David Bohm and Leonard Schiff. Both of these books have chapters dealing with 'symmetries in quantum mechanics'. It offers a very rudimentary introduction to group theory and demonstrates how orbital and spin angular momentum arise in quantum mechanics. They also have a discussion on what is know as 'dynamical symmetry' of the hydrogen atom, where they derive the expression for the energy levels of the hydrogen atom using the concept of symmetry and without using the Schrödinger equation. It's really amazing.

Lastly, Walter Greiner wrote a textbook called Quantum Mechanics - Symmetries. It is also a beautiful book and also very good for a beginner. Come to think of it, I should have mentioned it first!
 
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dextercioby said:
I remember reading somewhere that the books by Gerald Folland were also full of errors.

dextercioby said:
@George Jones You do know that Folland's book in 1st (original, 2008) printing had a 5 page errata and the subsequent printings also had errors, right?

The errata notwithstanding, if I could choose just one book that I could take to the past when I was a grad student all those decades ago, it might be "Quantum Field Theory: A Tourist Guide for Mathematicians" by Gerald Folland. Life is too busy for me now to go through this book line-by-line, e.g., I am writing this post while on holidays with my wife and daughter 4200 km (as the crow flies) from my home, but while still in my home country.

The errata for the first printing of Folland:
https://sites.math.washington.edu/~folland/Homepage/oldqft.pdf

The much smaller errata for the second printing:
https://sites.math.washington.edu/~folland/Homepage/qft.pdf

The size of the errata for these two printings is not too different than, for example, the errata for "Quantum Field Theory and the Standard Model" by Matthew Schwartz, which is rapidly becoming a classic.
http://www.schwartzqft.com/FirstCorrections.html
http://www.schwartzqft.com/SecondCorrections.html

I can give other examples of often-used books that have similar errata.

I think that if you (@dextercioby) could get past this, you would really like Folland's book.
 
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Kurt Sundermeyer's "Symmetries in Fundamental Physics" is one of best books that I have encountered on the subject. It's a somewhat advanced text, however, so it helps to already possesses a graduate level understanding of the major branches of physics.
 
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