That 2 waves can overlap one and another

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of large ocean waves, specifically the concept of "monster waves" and how they can form through the interaction of smaller waves. Participants explore the conditions under which such waves might occur, drawing from personal experiences and theoretical understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a personal experience with large waves while fishing and proposes that two waves can overlap to create a larger wave.
  • Another participant mentions the principle of superposition, suggesting that wave amplitudes can combine when waves coincide in specific locations, such as narrow straits or shallow sandbanks.
  • There is a mention of the phenomenon of "sets" in surfing, where larger waves occur periodically, which may relate to the discussion of wave formation.
  • A third participant refers to "rogue waves" as a related concept, providing a link for further reading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas about wave formation and the conditions that lead to large waves, but there is no consensus on a definitive explanation or model. Multiple competing views remain regarding the mechanisms behind the occurrence of monster waves.

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Some assumptions about wave behavior and environmental conditions are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in wave interactions.

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Individuals interested in oceanography, wave dynamics, and personal experiences related to maritime activities may find this discussion relevant.

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Good evening Physicists! I am a bloke from Norway(Please excuse my writing, aint that good on the english language.). And my question to you, is if you can tell me how waves evolve into what most people would call Monster waves, and How high they can get. I have always asked this question when it seemed fit to the right person. I'm a fisherman, and last week I got hit by one of those, of course, not the real large ones. But there was about 2-3 meter swells, and then suddently i couldn't see ANYTHINg but a large wall of sea heading towards me, but somehow it just collapsed a few seconds before it would hit. My guess would be that the 'monster wave' was about 5-6 meters high. So I guess you can figure out how my face looked at that point. It did ofcourse hurt my boat (which is a 35 fot 'Sjark', its smaller fishing vessels fit for us that doesn't want to spend months on the sea. ) the impact didnt damage the baug, but everything that was nailed to it from the inside, got ripped right off on the impact, don't know how though. But who cares about that, the real question is HOW, and WHEN? My theory is, that 2 waves can overlap one and another, and evolve into one huge wave. I don't know if this is correct though, hope you can help me with this.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Hey, there are a few things that i can think of.
As far as i have understood you are familiar with superposition where the amplitudes join and add up.
Now this can happen when the waves coincide with each other in say a narrow straight (if you are fishing between say two islands) or possibly if there are two shallow sandbanks that diverge the waves into one. Possibility of currents coinciding? These are what i think are possible, but it is probably just coincidence that some coincide and create big monster waves. It is however worth checking up on what surfers call "sets" every five waves or so tends to be bigger and better to surf - might want to check that out.

-Niklas (Hej från Sverige!)
 


cool! Indeed it was similar to my initial thoughts, sounds really cool though.
 

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