The 1100 kg mass of a car includes four tires

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The problem involves a car with a total mass of 1100 kg, which includes four tires, each weighing 35 kg. The scenario describes the car being pulled by a tow truck with a force of 1500 N, and participants are tasked with determining the car's acceleration while considering the rotational dynamics of the tires.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between linear acceleration and the rotational motion of the tires, questioning how to integrate the equations of motion for both translational and rotational dynamics. There is also exploration of the role of torque and the moment of inertia in the context of the problem.

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Several participants have raised questions regarding the assumptions made in the problem, particularly about the contributions of the tires to the overall dynamics. Guidance has been offered regarding the need for a free body diagram and the relationship between the linear speed of the car and the rotational speed of the tires.

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Participants are considering the implications of including the mass of the tires in the total mass of the car and the effects of torque on the acceleration. There is an emphasis on ensuring all forces and moments are accounted for in the analysis.

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Homework Statement



The 1100 kg mass of a car includes four tires, each of mass (including wheels) 35 kg and diameter 0.80 m. Assume each tire and wheel combination acts as a solid cylinder.
If the car is initially at rest and is then pulled by a tow truck with a force of 1500 N, what is the acceleration of the car?

Homework Equations


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F = ma
T = I*alpha
I = 1/2*m*r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


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It is apparent that doing acc = 1500/1100 leads to a wrong result. We must consider the tires and their accelerations. But I don't know how I can combine "ma" with "I*alpha" in the same equation, to solve for "a".
 
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hitemup said:
diameter 0.80 m
This bit of information, and the following bit
hitemup said:
T = I*alpha
if put together correctly should help you.
 
Is the speed of the car not related to the rotational speed of the wheels?
 
Bystander said:
This bit of information, and the following bit

if put together correctly should help you.

Yes the right hand side of that equation(T = I*alpha) is known, but I don't think the left side can be calculated simply by F*r. Is it the whole force that contributes to torque of a tire?
 
hitemup said:
whole force that contributes to torque of a tire?
The angular moment of inertia resists the acceleration.
 
Have you done a free body diagram on the car? How is the rate of rotation of the tires related to the linear speed of the car? Have you at least included the mass of the tires in the overall mass m of the car when applying F = ma.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Have you done a free body diagram on the car? Is the ground exerting a force on the car? How is the rate of rotation of the tires related to the linear speed of the car? Have you at least included the mass of the tires in the overall mass m of the car when applying F = ma.

Chet
 

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