The addition of the wave functions for a system

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the addition of wave functions in quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of describing systems with multiple particles. Participants explore the implications of combining individual wave functions and the mathematical frameworks involved, such as tensor products and probability rules.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that wave functions of individual particles can be added to create a wave function for a system, questioning how this is possible given that each wave function is different and whether it is based on probability rules.
  • Another participant counters that wave functions are not simply added but rather require the formation of the "tensor product" of the two Hilbert spaces to accurately describe a system of multiple particles.
  • Further, a participant explains that adding two wave functions still describes a single particle and that to describe two particles, one must introduce two positions and use the product of the wave functions.
  • There is a reiteration of the need for probability rules in the context of combining wave functions, though the specifics of how this applies remain unclear.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how wave functions can be combined, with some advocating for addition and others emphasizing the necessity of tensor products. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach to combining wave functions for multiple particles.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the mathematical formalism of quantum mechanics, particularly concerning the definitions and operations applied to wave functions. There are unresolved aspects regarding the application of probability rules in this context.

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the wave functions of individual particles can be added together to create a wave function for for system, that means quantum theory allows physicists to examine many particles at once??...how is it possible if the wave function of each particles is different??...is it based on rules of probability??
 
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ashutoshsharma said:
the wave functions of individual particles can be added together to create a wave function for for system,
Not added. One must form the "tensor product" of the two Hilbert spaces.
 
Consider a single particle wave function ψ(x) for a single particle. Adding two such wave functions ψa(x) + ψb(x) still describes one single particle.

In order to describe two particles you have to introduce two positions x and y and you have to use the product ψa(x) * ψb(y)
 
tom.stoer said:
Consider a single particle wave function ψ(x) for a single particle. Adding two such wave functions ψa(x) + ψb(x) still describes one single particle.

In order to describe two particles you have to introduce two positions x and y and you have to use the product ψa(x) * ψb(y)

and isn't it guided by the rules of probability?
 

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