The Binomial Series: Extending the Validity?

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The binomial series converges for |x| < 1, and while rewriting it as x^n(1 + 1/x)^n can extend its validity for |x| > 1, it is not universally applicable. The series is defined for specific values of n, and for any given n, there exists an N such that nx exceeds any fixed number for large n. Plugging in x = 1 into the series is typically not valid for standard convergence, but alternative definitions can yield results like -1/12. Approximating √2 using the binomial series is possible, though convergence may not be rapid. The discussion highlights the nuances of series convergence and manipulation.
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The binomial series ##(1 + x)^n = 1 + nx + \frac{n(n-1)}{2!} x^2 + ...## only converges for ##|x| < 1## right?
Is it true that writing ##(1 + x)^n## differently (i.e. ##x^n (1 + \frac{1}{x})^n##) extends the validity of this series to include values of ##x## such that ##|x| > 1##?
 
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MohammedRady97 said:
The binomial series (1+x)n=1+nx+n(n−1)2!x2+...(1 + x)^n = 1 + nx + \frac{n(n-1)}{2!} x^2 + ... only converges for |x|<1|x| < 1 right?
No. A binomial series is only defined for a given n, Whatever the value of x, there exists an N such that nx&gt;1000 for n>N.
MohammedRady97 said:
Is it true that writing (1+x)n(1 + x)^n differently (i.e. xn(1+1x)nx^n (1 + \frac{1}{x})^n) extends the validity of this series to include values of xx such that |x|>1|x| > 1?
No.
 
MohammedRady97 said:
The binomial series ##(1 + x)^n = 1 + nx + \frac{n(n-1)}{2!} x^2 + ...## only converges for ##|x| < 1## right?

Yes. Although the series might converge for more values than just ##|x|<1##. Complete details are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_series#Conditions_for_convergence

Is it true that writing ##(1 + x)^n## differently (i.e. ##x^n (1 + \frac{1}{x})^n##) extends the validity of this series to include values of ##x## such that ##|x| > 1##?

Yes, If ##|x|>1##, then your trick can be used. If ##|x|<1##, then your trick doesn't work, but the original series does of course. If ##|x|=1## then the situation is a bit annoying.
 
Svein said:
No. A binomial series is only defined for a given n, Whatever the value of x, there exists an N such that nx&gt;1000 for n>N.

No.

micromass said:
Yes. Although the series might converge for more values than just ##|x|<1##. Complete details are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_series#Conditions_for_convergence
Yes, If ##|x|>1##, then your trick can be used. If ##|x|<1##, then your trick doesn't work, but the original series does of course. If ##|x|=1## then the situation is a bit annoying.

Interesting. I once watched a video in which someone proves that the sum of all natural numbers is ##-\frac{1}{12}##, and in one of the steps, he substituted ##x = 1## into the binomial series. Apparently, anything is possible if you're Euler!
 
MohammedRady97 said:
Interesting. I once watched a video in which someone proves that the sum of all natural numbers is ##-\frac{1}{12}##, and in one of the steps, he substituted ##x = 1## into the binomial series. Apparently, anything is possible if you're Euler!

Yes, that is valid, but only under conditions. For the standard convergence of series, plugging in ##x=1## is forbidden. But there are other definitions where series do not converge how we they usually do. Under those definitions, you do get ##-1/12##.
 
micromass said:
Yes, that is valid, but only under conditions. For the standard convergence of series, plugging in ##x=1## is forbidden. But there are other definitions where series do not converge how we they usually do. Under those definitions, you do get ##-1/12##.

Is it possible to approximate ##\sqrt{2}## using the binomial series?
 
Yes, but not directly. What you can do (for example) is to use ##x=-1/2## to approximate ##1/\sqrt{2} = \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}##. And then you can easily find ##\sqrt{2}##.

Edit: I guess you can even do it directly, but convergence won't be very rapid.
 
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