The circuit of the induction coil

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of an induction coil in an AC circuit, particularly focusing on the induced electromotive force (emf) when the circuit is turned off. Participants explore the relationship between the induced emf and the source emf, as well as the detection of voltage using different instruments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that when the circuit is turned off, there is an induced emf through the coil due to the changing magnetic field, represented by the equation V=-L (dI/dt).
  • Another participant questions the specifics of the circuit being discussed and requests clarification or a figure to better understand the context.
  • A participant clarifies that the circuit in question includes an AC source and an induction coil, and asks why a voltmeter detects a voltage across the coil if the source emf is equal in value but opposite in direction.
  • One response suggests that a voltmeter cannot detect instantaneous voltage and recommends using an oscilloscope for a clearer picture of the voltage across the induction coil.
  • A later reply confirms the understanding that the voltmeter detects the voltage across the coil and questions the validity of the earlier claim regarding the sum of the voltages.
  • Another participant asserts that according to Kirchhoff's rule, the sum of the voltages around a closed circuit is always zero at any time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the detection of voltage and the implications of Kirchhoff's rule, indicating that multiple competing views remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the behavior of the voltmeter and the interpretation of instantaneous voltage, which remain unaddressed in the discussion.

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When we turn the circuit off . There will be an induced emf through the coil due to the changing magnetic field of the AC . Therefore V=-L . DI/Dt
So when the current is zero then the emf has a maximum value . And what about the emf of the source itself ? It's equal to the induced emf? If It has the same value and an opposite direction whey they don't cancel each other out ?
 
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Aya Elsayed said:
When we turn the circuit off.
What circuit? Can you be more specific and describe it, even better can you post it as a figure?
 
kuruman said:
What circuit? Can you be more specific and describe it, even better can you post it as a figure?. QUOTE]
The circuit that have an AC source and an induction coil . I mean when we close the circuit why the voltemeter detect a voltage between the coil"induced emf" if the the emf of the source has the same value and in an opposite direction?
 
OK, I see. The voltmeter cannot detect an instantaneous voltage, which is what you are talking about. You will get a better picture of the instantaneous voltage if you connect an oscilloscope across the induction coil.
 
kuruman said:
OK, I see. The voltmeter cannot detect an instantaneous voltage, which is what you are talking about. You will get a better picture of the instantaneous voltage if you connect an oscilloscope across the induction coil.
I got it ... So It only detects the voltage between the coil .
So what I said about the sum of the voltages is right ?
 
According to the Kirchhoff rule, the sum of the voltages around the closed circuit is zero at any time. That is always the case.
 
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