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Thats a perfect BP for someone your age Greg.
The effects of high blood pressure transient
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the potential long-term effects of a temporary spike in blood pressure from a pre-hypertension level (140/90) to a significantly higher level (175/110) sustained for ten hours. Participants explore the implications of such an event on various organs and overall health, along with personal experiences and medical advice.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Debate/contested
- Technical explanation
- Personal experience
Main Points Raised
- Some participants express concern that even a temporary spike in blood pressure could lead to irreversible damage to internal organs, particularly the heart, kidneys, and brain.
- Others emphasize the importance of understanding the underlying cause of the blood pressure spike and suggest seeking immediate medical attention.
- A few participants share personal anecdotes about their own blood pressure experiences and frustrations with medical professionals, highlighting a perceived lack of thorough investigation into their health issues.
- There are mentions of malignant hypertension and its potential to cause internal damage, with calls for reassurance and clarity regarding treatment options.
- Some participants discuss the role of lifestyle factors, such as diet and exercise, in managing blood pressure, while others question the effectiveness of prescribed medications.
- Concerns are raised about the relationship between cholesterol levels and blood pressure, with some suggesting that low cholesterol might not guarantee clean arteries.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree that high blood pressure is a serious health concern, but there is no consensus on the long-term effects of a temporary spike or the best course of action. Multiple competing views regarding medical advice, personal experiences, and the role of lifestyle factors remain evident throughout the discussion.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include varying definitions of normal blood pressure, differing personal health histories, and unresolved questions about the effectiveness of treatments and the accuracy of medical assessments.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be of interest to individuals experiencing high blood pressure, those seeking to understand the implications of temporary spikes in blood pressure, and anyone looking for shared experiences related to medical consultations and treatment options.
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berkeman
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Greg Bernhardt said:
That would be, um, after, right? Certainly not before.
- #33
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Greg Bernhardt said:
BTW, there's a fundamental (traditional) problem with that BP. No worries for you Greg, but for the person who took your BP. Was it a newbie?
(Odd number BPs have been depricated for a while)
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Astronuc
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Much better!Greg Bernhardt said:
My normal BP is about 110/70 give or take. It's been as low as 85/60, after riding my bike to donate blood at the Red Cross. They declined because of low BP. So I went and ate lunch, drank a few cups of coffee, and went back with a slightly higher BP.
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AyazM
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Allegra is fexofenadine and Pseudoephedrine.
Now there's a serious misunderstanding here. Do you actually suffer from some allergic condition? Congestion in nose? Congestion in ears? Fexofenadine is perfectly fine ALONE but giving pseudoephedrine is like deliberately increasing your already high blood pressure. What was your doctor actually thinking of?
Now there's a serious misunderstanding here. Do you actually suffer from some allergic condition? Congestion in nose? Congestion in ears? Fexofenadine is perfectly fine ALONE but giving pseudoephedrine is like deliberately increasing your already high blood pressure. What was your doctor actually thinking of?
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waht
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yes
About the check-out.
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Count Iblis
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If you use anti-histamines, you will get the opposite side effects.
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tkjtkj
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what said:
That even, by itself, would be very unlikely to cause significant damage. However, that is not to say that it shouldn't be investigated by a physician. I'd sure want to know why it happened but were it a 'situational episode of HTN' , id not worry. The definition of HTN is that it must be measured on at least 3 separate occasions by a medical professional. "White-coat Hypertension" (ie, anxiety in medical situations) is common. ;)
At the same time, a person's history, including age and presence of other conditions might impel serious investigation.
Talk with your doctor.
I am retired, have no Dr.-Patient relationship with anyone, and my comments here may only be taken in the framework of general discussion.
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AyazM
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Count Iblis said:
They are mild if any.
what I would personally advise you to just stick with Fexofenadine (Many brand names; one is Telfast). It's a 2nd generation antihistamine which means it won't enter your brain and therefore side-effects on brain are minimized. For your allergy, this'd be a very good medication.
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Count Iblis
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A long time ago, I was quite ill after using an antihistamine. My heart rate became too slow, which was particularly noticeable after (light) exertion. I almost collapsed a few times with a heart rate of lower than 40 bpm while walking.
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waht
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Count Iblis said:
Do anti-histamines actually lower blood pressure?
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Proton Soup
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AyazM said:
i believe the version with pseudoephedrine is branded as Allegra-D (for decongestant), but the original version is just Allegra.
a compromise might be to just take Allegra (or one of the generics available now) and only take a decongestant when you really need it.
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Count Iblis
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what said:
Not sure about that in general, but if you get the side effects I got, then it will definitely lower blood pressure...
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Count Iblis
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You can also cauterize your nasal concha. You're nose will be free without having to use any medicines. At least, that's my experience. The operation is done under local anesthesia, and takes only half an hour (the actual operation takes less than a minute, the half an hour is needed for the nose to be properly anesthetized).
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tkjtkj
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I observe that, although I've implied that i am a retired physician, not one person has commented on my own contributions here. I can only surmise that there is some 'anti-doc' bias here, which impels me to leave this discussion. I am sorry not to have offered helpful commentary.
tkjtkj, md <ret>
tkjtkj, md <ret>