The force required to accelerate a radiating charge

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The discussion centers on the force required to uniformly accelerate a radiating charge, specifically addressing the implications of radiation on this force. It highlights the confusion regarding the infinite force needed when the charge's velocity is zero, suggesting a misunderstanding of the relationship between applied force and radiation. The emitted radiation acts as a small drag force rather than the primary accelerating force, which typically arises from external electric or magnetic fields. The conversation also touches on the Abraham-Lorentz force, noting its limitations in cases of constant acceleration and the challenge of energy conservation when the charge is at rest. Ultimately, the participants seek clarity on how to maintain constant acceleration while accounting for radiation effects.
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If we try to treat a non-relativistic point charge, what force do we need to accelerate it uniformly, when we take the fact that it radiates into account? I assumed the force would do the necessary extra work so that:

F dx = d(1/2 mv^2) + P dt;

where P is the Larmor power, but at any point where the velocity is 0 this would imply an infinite force. What am I missing?
 
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You've got the cart in front of the horse.

The emitted radiation is a very, very small drag force on the electron, not the accelerating force, which usually comes from an applied electric or magnetic field.
 
I'm assuming a case with no 'jerk' (constant acceleration), and I would like to figure out what force we need to put in in order to achieve this - I'm aware the radiation is effectively a small drag on the electron, but what is the required additional input force to keep acceleration constant, and conserve energy? I don't think Abraham Lorentz is much help as this applies to non-constant a. How do we conserve energy when a dot = 0?
 
In case of no jerk,you can see there is zero radiation reaction force but you also know that an accelerating charge radiates,so there is supposed to be some force putting energy into it.But the problem is from where it will come because radiation reaction is zero for constant acceleration.You can see for this dilemma here
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath528/kmath528.htm
 
Just what I was looking for - thanks andrien
 
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